Do you have an example of stealth solar?
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@smallsolar it's just plugged in, it's not in its final location yet and I wanted to check it wasn't DOA.
It does what it does well enough. The Ecoflow app has a few quirks and doesn't always report what you think it's reporting, but I'm getting used to them.
I don't have an Ecoflow-compatible energy monitor or smart plugs (my existing ZigBee kit isn't on their compatibility list AFAICT) but I've set up a manual demand profile and the Ultra follows it well enough.
@sheddi I found that the meter was key to avoid just losing lots of power to the grid. I've got it installed in the fusebox (had to have a bigger box to fit it in) but I saw online someone who just added a cable and plugged it into a nearby socket and put the clamp over the input line.
Doubt I'll be recouping my costs when I factor in the electrician installation but I'm enjoying having it setup.
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@smallsolar I've a little 10W panel on the shed roof. It used to keep a Pi running, now it powers a humidity sensor to control a dehumidifier.
@dtl I like the use of the string/rope to keep it in place. I'm a big fan of small panels for particular tasks, don't need a grid for lots of tasks
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@Maker_of_Things thats a great idea and I'm sure there aren't any planning issues as it's theoretically temporary, could I include that image on the site?
@smallsolar
Yes, temporary and mobile.I'm fine about the image being used, just include the credit as 'Alfred Chow - Maker of Things'.
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Do you have an example of stealth solar?
I've been thinking a lot about 'stealth solar' where people attach #solarpanels to places in a subtle way to capture the sun's energy. It might be stealth as there are strict rules or just want to keep it low key. #balconysolar is sort of stealth gone mainstream.
With cheaper MPPT devices you can now accept slightly poorer efficiency due to placement and with microinverters don't need to make long strings. I particularly think that there is no point having a solar panel in storage, best get it out there and generating even if it's in a temporary place!
So I thought I'd start a small website that documents different stealth setups, so if you have cheeky solar panels and would be willing to share a little info (but not too much if it would get you in trouble) get in touch.
@smallsolar unsure if this counts but I got 3 450wp panels sitting upright against my garden fencing. Main reason for it is that in the winter at noon the sun hits this spot basically exactly head-on, so I still get ~1-1.5kw of power out of this in the winter despite the dutch latitude
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@yngmar that is such a clever idea! I'll do some research and see if I can find some pictures, definitely one for the website and I'm half tempted to make my own for fun!
@yngmar wow had a look, seems like there are even some commercial versions, I like the ones with the ability to tilt, you probably only use your table for an hour or so a day even on a busy day so it could be then used to generate some power.
The biggest issue I see is the trailing cable, could put batteries into the legs
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@smallsolar unsure if this counts but I got 3 450wp panels sitting upright against my garden fencing. Main reason for it is that in the winter at noon the sun hits this spot basically exactly head-on, so I still get ~1-1.5kw of power out of this in the winter despite the dutch latitude
@anthropy that is absolutely stealth solar, also you've got plants growing around it so you get extra points for being #solarpunk
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@dtl I like the use of the string/rope to keep it in place. I'm a big fan of small panels for particular tasks, don't need a grid for lots of tasks
@smallsolar it was a temporary solution that has lasted 10 years so far.
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@smallsolar it was a temporary solution that has lasted 10 years so far.
@dtl could I included it on my list? Happy to credit the image
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@smallsolar In some flats where balcony solar isn't allowed because the landlord is a bastard, people have been building solar tables, which is just a panel with four legs. There is no rule against having a table on your balcony and no rule what a table has to be made of. You'll probably find many pictures if you search for "solartisch".
They can be used as table as well (best use a table cloth to avoid scratching the glass, although it is pretty tough).
Brilliant !!!
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Do you have an example of stealth solar?
I've been thinking a lot about 'stealth solar' where people attach #solarpanels to places in a subtle way to capture the sun's energy. It might be stealth as there are strict rules or just want to keep it low key. #balconysolar is sort of stealth gone mainstream.
With cheaper MPPT devices you can now accept slightly poorer efficiency due to placement and with microinverters don't need to make long strings. I particularly think that there is no point having a solar panel in storage, best get it out there and generating even if it's in a temporary place!
So I thought I'd start a small website that documents different stealth setups, so if you have cheeky solar panels and would be willing to share a little info (but not too much if it would get you in trouble) get in touch.
@smallsolar
Maybe you can help me.
What would happen if you were to add a plug in inverter to an AC circuit provided by a low frequency inverter? -
@dtl could I included it on my list? Happy to credit the image
@smallsolar please do. Sorry it's not the most photogenic image.
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@yngmar wow had a look, seems like there are even some commercial versions, I like the ones with the ability to tilt, you probably only use your table for an hour or so a day even on a busy day so it could be then used to generate some power.
The biggest issue I see is the trailing cable, could put batteries into the legs
@smallsolar @yngmar Put anything with a cable right beside the Solartisch (of course connect "the right" plug).
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@smallsolar please do. Sorry it's not the most photogenic image.
@dtl @smallsolar at least it is a photovoltaic image 🤌
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@dtl @smallsolar at least it is a photovoltaic image 🤌
@falcennial @smallsolar Nice one.
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Do you have an example of stealth solar?
I've been thinking a lot about 'stealth solar' where people attach #solarpanels to places in a subtle way to capture the sun's energy. It might be stealth as there are strict rules or just want to keep it low key. #balconysolar is sort of stealth gone mainstream.
With cheaper MPPT devices you can now accept slightly poorer efficiency due to placement and with microinverters don't need to make long strings. I particularly think that there is no point having a solar panel in storage, best get it out there and generating even if it's in a temporary place!
So I thought I'd start a small website that documents different stealth setups, so if you have cheeky solar panels and would be willing to share a little info (but not too much if it would get you in trouble) get in touch.
@smallsolar "Stealth solar" is a new term for me (English is not my first language). I say "guerilla solar", but stealth sounds nicer.
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Do you have an example of stealth solar?
I've been thinking a lot about 'stealth solar' where people attach #solarpanels to places in a subtle way to capture the sun's energy. It might be stealth as there are strict rules or just want to keep it low key. #balconysolar is sort of stealth gone mainstream.
With cheaper MPPT devices you can now accept slightly poorer efficiency due to placement and with microinverters don't need to make long strings. I particularly think that there is no point having a solar panel in storage, best get it out there and generating even if it's in a temporary place!
So I thought I'd start a small website that documents different stealth setups, so if you have cheeky solar panels and would be willing to share a little info (but not too much if it would get you in trouble) get in touch.
@smallsolar this is a great idea. I am looking for a way to place solar panels on my balcony. My landlord said no, when I asked. So some stealth option could still work.
Someone has experience with those solar tables? is a battery on the balcony in the sun a very bad idea? or could it still work?
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@smallsolar
Maybe you can help me.
What would happen if you were to add a plug in inverter to an AC circuit provided by a low frequency inverter?@ohmrun I think it will really depend on the actual devices and how they operate, plug in inverters are designed for standard grid systems and have anti-islanding etc.
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@smallsolar In some flats where balcony solar isn't allowed because the landlord is a bastard, people have been building solar tables, which is just a panel with four legs. There is no rule against having a table on your balcony and no rule what a table has to be made of. You'll probably find many pictures if you search for "solartisch".
They can be used as table as well (best use a table cloth to avoid scratching the glass, although it is pretty tough).
@yngmar @smallsolar that's pretty punk if you ask me
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@smallsolar "Stealth solar" is a new term for me (English is not my first language). I say "guerilla solar", but stealth sounds nicer.
@realSiegfried yes, I think I would have use guerilla solar as well but I guess stealth adds in the concept of aesthetics as well
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@smallsolar this is a great idea. I am looking for a way to place solar panels on my balcony. My landlord said no, when I asked. So some stealth option could still work.
Someone has experience with those solar tables? is a battery on the balcony in the sun a very bad idea? or could it still work?
@thierna my initial thoughts are that a battery should be fine if it's outdoor rated, the key would be to try and give it shade as you don't want it getting hot, I'm sure a a little fabric sale or wooden roof would make it look awesome
