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Do you have an example of stealth solar?

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  • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

    @Maker_of_Things thats a great idea and I'm sure there aren't any planning issues as it's theoretically temporary, could I include that image on the site?

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    @smallsolar
    Yes, temporary and mobile.

    I'm fine about the image being used, just include the credit as 'Alfred Chow - Maker of Things'.
    πŸ‘

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    • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

      Do you have an example of stealth solar?

      I've been thinking a lot about 'stealth solar' where people attach #solarpanels to places in a subtle way to capture the sun's energy. It might be stealth as there are strict rules or just want to keep it low key. #balconysolar is sort of stealth gone mainstream.

      With cheaper MPPT devices you can now accept slightly poorer efficiency due to placement and with microinverters don't need to make long strings. I particularly think that there is no point having a solar panel in storage, best get it out there and generating even if it's in a temporary place!

      So I thought I'd start a small website that documents different stealth setups, so if you have cheeky solar panels and would be willing to share a little info (but not too much if it would get you in trouble) get in touch.

      #stealth #solar #solarpunk #balkonsolar #hiddensolar

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      @smallsolar unsure if this counts but I got 3 450wp panels sitting upright against my garden fencing. Main reason for it is that in the winter at noon the sun hits this spot basically exactly head-on, so I still get ~1-1.5kw of power out of this in the winter despite the dutch latitude

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      • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

        @yngmar that is such a clever idea! I'll do some research and see if I can find some pictures, definitely one for the website and I'm half tempted to make my own for fun!

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        @yngmar wow had a look, seems like there are even some commercial versions, I like the ones with the ability to tilt, you probably only use your table for an hour or so a day even on a busy day so it could be then used to generate some power.

        The biggest issue I see is the trailing cable, could put batteries into the legs 😜

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        • anthropy@mastodon.derg.nzA anthropy@mastodon.derg.nz

          @smallsolar unsure if this counts but I got 3 450wp panels sitting upright against my garden fencing. Main reason for it is that in the winter at noon the sun hits this spot basically exactly head-on, so I still get ~1-1.5kw of power out of this in the winter despite the dutch latitude

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          @anthropy that is absolutely stealth solar, also you've got plants growing around it so you get extra points for being #solarpunk

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          • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

            @dtl I like the use of the string/rope to keep it in place. I'm a big fan of small panels for particular tasks, don't need a grid for lots of tasks

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            @smallsolar it was a temporary solution that has lasted 10 years so far.

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            • dtl@8bitorbust.infoD dtl@8bitorbust.info

              @smallsolar it was a temporary solution that has lasted 10 years so far.

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              @dtl could I included it on my list? Happy to credit the image

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              • yngmar@social.tchncs.deY yngmar@social.tchncs.de

                @smallsolar In some flats where balcony solar isn't allowed because the landlord is a bastard, people have been building solar tables, which is just a panel with four legs. There is no rule against having a table on your balcony and no rule what a table has to be made of. You'll probably find many pictures if you search for "solartisch".

                They can be used as table as well (best use a table cloth to avoid scratching the glass, although it is pretty tough).

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                @yngmar @smallsolar

                Brilliant !!!

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                • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

                  Do you have an example of stealth solar?

                  I've been thinking a lot about 'stealth solar' where people attach #solarpanels to places in a subtle way to capture the sun's energy. It might be stealth as there are strict rules or just want to keep it low key. #balconysolar is sort of stealth gone mainstream.

                  With cheaper MPPT devices you can now accept slightly poorer efficiency due to placement and with microinverters don't need to make long strings. I particularly think that there is no point having a solar panel in storage, best get it out there and generating even if it's in a temporary place!

                  So I thought I'd start a small website that documents different stealth setups, so if you have cheeky solar panels and would be willing to share a little info (but not too much if it would get you in trouble) get in touch.

                  #stealth #solar #solarpunk #balkonsolar #hiddensolar

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                  @smallsolar
                  Maybe you can help me.
                  What would happen if you were to add a plug in inverter to an AC circuit provided by a low frequency inverter?

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                  • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

                    @dtl could I included it on my list? Happy to credit the image

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                    @smallsolar please do. Sorry it's not the most photogenic image.

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                    • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

                      @yngmar wow had a look, seems like there are even some commercial versions, I like the ones with the ability to tilt, you probably only use your table for an hour or so a day even on a busy day so it could be then used to generate some power.

                      The biggest issue I see is the trailing cable, could put batteries into the legs 😜

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                      @smallsolar @yngmar Put anything with a cable right beside the Solartisch (of course connect "the right" plug).

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                      • dtl@8bitorbust.infoD dtl@8bitorbust.info

                        @smallsolar please do. Sorry it's not the most photogenic image.

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                        @dtl @smallsolar at least it is a photovoltaic image 🀌

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                        • falcennial@mastodon.socialF falcennial@mastodon.social

                          @dtl @smallsolar at least it is a photovoltaic image 🀌

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                          @falcennial @smallsolar Nice one.

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                          • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

                            Do you have an example of stealth solar?

                            I've been thinking a lot about 'stealth solar' where people attach #solarpanels to places in a subtle way to capture the sun's energy. It might be stealth as there are strict rules or just want to keep it low key. #balconysolar is sort of stealth gone mainstream.

                            With cheaper MPPT devices you can now accept slightly poorer efficiency due to placement and with microinverters don't need to make long strings. I particularly think that there is no point having a solar panel in storage, best get it out there and generating even if it's in a temporary place!

                            So I thought I'd start a small website that documents different stealth setups, so if you have cheeky solar panels and would be willing to share a little info (but not too much if it would get you in trouble) get in touch.

                            #stealth #solar #solarpunk #balkonsolar #hiddensolar

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                            @smallsolar "Stealth solar" is a new term for me (English is not my first language). I say "guerilla solar", but stealth sounds nicer.

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                            • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

                              Do you have an example of stealth solar?

                              I've been thinking a lot about 'stealth solar' where people attach #solarpanels to places in a subtle way to capture the sun's energy. It might be stealth as there are strict rules or just want to keep it low key. #balconysolar is sort of stealth gone mainstream.

                              With cheaper MPPT devices you can now accept slightly poorer efficiency due to placement and with microinverters don't need to make long strings. I particularly think that there is no point having a solar panel in storage, best get it out there and generating even if it's in a temporary place!

                              So I thought I'd start a small website that documents different stealth setups, so if you have cheeky solar panels and would be willing to share a little info (but not too much if it would get you in trouble) get in touch.

                              #stealth #solar #solarpunk #balkonsolar #hiddensolar

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                              @smallsolar this is a great idea. I am looking for a way to place solar panels on my balcony. My landlord said no, when I asked. So some stealth option could still work.

                              Someone has experience with those solar tables? is a battery on the balcony in the sun a very bad idea? or could it still work?

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                              • ohmrun@indieweb.socialO ohmrun@indieweb.social

                                @smallsolar
                                Maybe you can help me.
                                What would happen if you were to add a plug in inverter to an AC circuit provided by a low frequency inverter?

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                                @ohmrun I think it will really depend on the actual devices and how they operate, plug in inverters are designed for standard grid systems and have anti-islanding etc.

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                                • yngmar@social.tchncs.deY yngmar@social.tchncs.de

                                  @smallsolar In some flats where balcony solar isn't allowed because the landlord is a bastard, people have been building solar tables, which is just a panel with four legs. There is no rule against having a table on your balcony and no rule what a table has to be made of. You'll probably find many pictures if you search for "solartisch".

                                  They can be used as table as well (best use a table cloth to avoid scratching the glass, although it is pretty tough).

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                                  @yngmar @smallsolar that's pretty punk if you ask me

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                                  • realsiegfried@troet.cafeR realsiegfried@troet.cafe

                                    @smallsolar "Stealth solar" is a new term for me (English is not my first language). I say "guerilla solar", but stealth sounds nicer.

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                                    @realSiegfried yes, I think I would have use guerilla solar as well but I guess stealth adds in the concept of aesthetics as well

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                                    • thierna@mastodon.greenT thierna@mastodon.green

                                      @smallsolar this is a great idea. I am looking for a way to place solar panels on my balcony. My landlord said no, when I asked. So some stealth option could still work.

                                      Someone has experience with those solar tables? is a battery on the balcony in the sun a very bad idea? or could it still work?

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                                      @thierna my initial thoughts are that a battery should be fine if it's outdoor rated, the key would be to try and give it shade as you don't want it getting hot, I'm sure a a little fabric sale or wooden roof would make it look awesome

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                                      • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

                                        Do you have an example of stealth solar?

                                        I've been thinking a lot about 'stealth solar' where people attach #solarpanels to places in a subtle way to capture the sun's energy. It might be stealth as there are strict rules or just want to keep it low key. #balconysolar is sort of stealth gone mainstream.

                                        With cheaper MPPT devices you can now accept slightly poorer efficiency due to placement and with microinverters don't need to make long strings. I particularly think that there is no point having a solar panel in storage, best get it out there and generating even if it's in a temporary place!

                                        So I thought I'd start a small website that documents different stealth setups, so if you have cheeky solar panels and would be willing to share a little info (but not too much if it would get you in trouble) get in touch.

                                        #stealth #solar #solarpunk #balkonsolar #hiddensolar

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                                        @smallsolar
                                        RE
                                        about stealth solar where people attach #solarpanels to places in a subtle way to capture the sun's energy

                                        #offthegrid #diy #solarcharger
                                        #msnow had a 2min segment on just off the shelf system to charge his #EV

                                        seems there are no rules in his town, see video

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                                        • anthropy@mastodon.derg.nzA anthropy@mastodon.derg.nz

                                          @smallsolar unsure if this counts but I got 3 450wp panels sitting upright against my garden fencing. Main reason for it is that in the winter at noon the sun hits this spot basically exactly head-on, so I still get ~1-1.5kw of power out of this in the winter despite the dutch latitude

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                                          @anthropy @smallsolar the only issue I see, from purely a generation point of view, the plants cast shade on the panels, thus reducing the amount of power they generate.
                                          But I like the whole look of it so who cares about the lost Watts πŸ™‚

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