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Do you have an example of stealth solar?

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  • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

    Do you have an example of stealth solar?

    I've been thinking a lot about 'stealth solar' where people attach #solarpanels to places in a subtle way to capture the sun's energy. It might be stealth as there are strict rules or just want to keep it low key. #balconysolar is sort of stealth gone mainstream.

    With cheaper MPPT devices you can now accept slightly poorer efficiency due to placement and with microinverters don't need to make long strings. I particularly think that there is no point having a solar panel in storage, best get it out there and generating even if it's in a temporary place!

    So I thought I'd start a small website that documents different stealth setups, so if you have cheeky solar panels and would be willing to share a little info (but not too much if it would get you in trouble) get in touch.

    #stealth #solar #solarpunk #balkonsolar #hiddensolar

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    @smallsolar I love this! I live in a 'conservation' area so it would be great to learn about the different ways people are doing stealth solar.

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    • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

      Do you have an example of stealth solar?

      I've been thinking a lot about 'stealth solar' where people attach #solarpanels to places in a subtle way to capture the sun's energy. It might be stealth as there are strict rules or just want to keep it low key. #balconysolar is sort of stealth gone mainstream.

      With cheaper MPPT devices you can now accept slightly poorer efficiency due to placement and with microinverters don't need to make long strings. I particularly think that there is no point having a solar panel in storage, best get it out there and generating even if it's in a temporary place!

      So I thought I'd start a small website that documents different stealth setups, so if you have cheeky solar panels and would be willing to share a little info (but not too much if it would get you in trouble) get in touch.

      #stealth #solar #solarpunk #balkonsolar #hiddensolar

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      @smallsolar I have semi-stealth for my off-grid system with PV on the porch roof and garden walls, as well as the non-stealth grid-connected system!

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      • earthorguk@mastodon.energyE earthorguk@mastodon.energy

        @smallsolar I have semi-stealth for my off-grid system with PV on the porch roof and garden walls, as well as the non-stealth grid-connected system!

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        @EarthOrgUK do you have any pictures or designs? I like that idea of a solar panel porch front

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        • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

          @EarthOrgUK do you have any pictures or designs? I like that idea of a solar panel porch front

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          @smallsolar In here are some of the garden wall:

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          Expanding and Optimising Off-grid PV for Mid-winter (2016)

          Read how I attempted to move 10% of our mid-winter home electricity demand off-grid... #microgen #storage

          favicon

          (www.earth.org.uk)

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          • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

            I recently added an ecoflow stream battery to my house (properly with a fused spur and isolator as plug in isn't yet allowed) and it gives me 4x MPPT so I can position 4 panels in different positions even if they aren't optimum and generate some solar.

            I suspect I'll end up putting 2 on my garage in a traditional setup and then 2 directly on an east facing wall of my house which can't be seen by anyone. I'll probably mount the wall ones myself, still debating the garage ones as it's a slate roof which is a bit tricky to work with.

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            @smallsolar I've got a Stream Ultra too.

            Currently have a single panel lying out on my patio (not as a table, but it could be!) while I work out how I'm going to mount it and it's three friends on my shed roof.

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            • sheddi@mstdn.partyS sheddi@mstdn.party

              @smallsolar I've got a Stream Ultra too.

              Currently have a single panel lying out on my patio (not as a table, but it could be!) while I work out how I'm going to mount it and it's three friends on my shed roof.

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              @sheddi how are you finding it? Have you just plugged in or is it wired in?

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              • earthorguk@mastodon.energyE earthorguk@mastodon.energy

                @smallsolar In here are some of the garden wall:

                Link Preview Image
                Expanding and Optimising Off-grid PV for Mid-winter (2016)

                Read how I attempted to move 10% of our mid-winter home electricity demand off-grid... #microgen #storage

                favicon

                (www.earth.org.uk)

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                @smallsolar and a newly-added pic of the stuff on the porch roof (you may need to force-reload the page):

                Link Preview Image
                Expanding and Optimising Off-grid PV for Mid-winter (2016)

                Read how I attempted to move 10% of our mid-winter home electricity demand off-grid... #microgen #storage

                favicon

                (www.earth.org.uk)

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                • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

                  Do you have an example of stealth solar?

                  I've been thinking a lot about 'stealth solar' where people attach #solarpanels to places in a subtle way to capture the sun's energy. It might be stealth as there are strict rules or just want to keep it low key. #balconysolar is sort of stealth gone mainstream.

                  With cheaper MPPT devices you can now accept slightly poorer efficiency due to placement and with microinverters don't need to make long strings. I particularly think that there is no point having a solar panel in storage, best get it out there and generating even if it's in a temporary place!

                  So I thought I'd start a small website that documents different stealth setups, so if you have cheeky solar panels and would be willing to share a little info (but not too much if it would get you in trouble) get in touch.

                  #stealth #solar #solarpunk #balkonsolar #hiddensolar

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                  @smallsolar
                  I had a large box trailer parked on my drive. It was becoming redundant and only used for storage, so I hung two solar panels on the side.
                  The trailer has been scrapped now, and the panels are back in storage as we are planning to move house.

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                  • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

                    @sheddi how are you finding it? Have you just plugged in or is it wired in?

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                    @smallsolar it's just plugged in, it's not in its final location yet and I wanted to check it wasn't DOA.

                    It does what it does well enough. The Ecoflow app has a few quirks and doesn't always report what you think it's reporting, but I'm getting used to them.

                    I don't have an Ecoflow-compatible energy monitor or smart plugs (my existing ZigBee kit isn't on their compatibility list AFAICT) but I've set up a manual demand profile and the Ultra follows it well enough.

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                    • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

                      Do you have an example of stealth solar?

                      I've been thinking a lot about 'stealth solar' where people attach #solarpanels to places in a subtle way to capture the sun's energy. It might be stealth as there are strict rules or just want to keep it low key. #balconysolar is sort of stealth gone mainstream.

                      With cheaper MPPT devices you can now accept slightly poorer efficiency due to placement and with microinverters don't need to make long strings. I particularly think that there is no point having a solar panel in storage, best get it out there and generating even if it's in a temporary place!

                      So I thought I'd start a small website that documents different stealth setups, so if you have cheeky solar panels and would be willing to share a little info (but not too much if it would get you in trouble) get in touch.

                      #stealth #solar #solarpunk #balkonsolar #hiddensolar

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                      @smallsolar I've a little 10W panel on the shed roof. It used to keep a Pi running, now it powers a humidity sensor to control a dehumidifier.

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                      • maker_of_things@cupoftea.socialM maker_of_things@cupoftea.social

                        @smallsolar
                        I had a large box trailer parked on my drive. It was becoming redundant and only used for storage, so I hung two solar panels on the side.
                        The trailer has been scrapped now, and the panels are back in storage as we are planning to move house.

                        Link Preview Image
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                        @Maker_of_Things thats a great idea and I'm sure there aren't any planning issues as it's theoretically temporary, could I include that image on the site?

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                        • sheddi@mstdn.partyS sheddi@mstdn.party

                          @smallsolar it's just plugged in, it's not in its final location yet and I wanted to check it wasn't DOA.

                          It does what it does well enough. The Ecoflow app has a few quirks and doesn't always report what you think it's reporting, but I'm getting used to them.

                          I don't have an Ecoflow-compatible energy monitor or smart plugs (my existing ZigBee kit isn't on their compatibility list AFAICT) but I've set up a manual demand profile and the Ultra follows it well enough.

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                          @sheddi I found that the meter was key to avoid just losing lots of power to the grid. I've got it installed in the fusebox (had to have a bigger box to fit it in) but I saw online someone who just added a cable and plugged it into a nearby socket and put the clamp over the input line.

                          Doubt I'll be recouping my costs when I factor in the electrician installation but I'm enjoying having it setup.

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                          • dtl@8bitorbust.infoD dtl@8bitorbust.info

                            @smallsolar I've a little 10W panel on the shed roof. It used to keep a Pi running, now it powers a humidity sensor to control a dehumidifier.

                            Link Preview Image
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                            @dtl I like the use of the string/rope to keep it in place. I'm a big fan of small panels for particular tasks, don't need a grid for lots of tasks

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                            • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

                              @Maker_of_Things thats a great idea and I'm sure there aren't any planning issues as it's theoretically temporary, could I include that image on the site?

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                              @smallsolar
                              Yes, temporary and mobile.

                              I'm fine about the image being used, just include the credit as 'Alfred Chow - Maker of Things'.
                              👍

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                              • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

                                Do you have an example of stealth solar?

                                I've been thinking a lot about 'stealth solar' where people attach #solarpanels to places in a subtle way to capture the sun's energy. It might be stealth as there are strict rules or just want to keep it low key. #balconysolar is sort of stealth gone mainstream.

                                With cheaper MPPT devices you can now accept slightly poorer efficiency due to placement and with microinverters don't need to make long strings. I particularly think that there is no point having a solar panel in storage, best get it out there and generating even if it's in a temporary place!

                                So I thought I'd start a small website that documents different stealth setups, so if you have cheeky solar panels and would be willing to share a little info (but not too much if it would get you in trouble) get in touch.

                                #stealth #solar #solarpunk #balkonsolar #hiddensolar

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                                @smallsolar unsure if this counts but I got 3 450wp panels sitting upright against my garden fencing. Main reason for it is that in the winter at noon the sun hits this spot basically exactly head-on, so I still get ~1-1.5kw of power out of this in the winter despite the dutch latitude

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                                • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

                                  @yngmar that is such a clever idea! I'll do some research and see if I can find some pictures, definitely one for the website and I'm half tempted to make my own for fun!

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                                  @yngmar wow had a look, seems like there are even some commercial versions, I like the ones with the ability to tilt, you probably only use your table for an hour or so a day even on a busy day so it could be then used to generate some power.

                                  The biggest issue I see is the trailing cable, could put batteries into the legs 😜

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                                  • anthropy@mastodon.derg.nzA anthropy@mastodon.derg.nz

                                    @smallsolar unsure if this counts but I got 3 450wp panels sitting upright against my garden fencing. Main reason for it is that in the winter at noon the sun hits this spot basically exactly head-on, so I still get ~1-1.5kw of power out of this in the winter despite the dutch latitude

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                                    @anthropy that is absolutely stealth solar, also you've got plants growing around it so you get extra points for being #solarpunk

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                                    • smallsolar@techhub.socialS smallsolar@techhub.social

                                      @dtl I like the use of the string/rope to keep it in place. I'm a big fan of small panels for particular tasks, don't need a grid for lots of tasks

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                                      @smallsolar it was a temporary solution that has lasted 10 years so far.

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                                      • dtl@8bitorbust.infoD dtl@8bitorbust.info

                                        @smallsolar it was a temporary solution that has lasted 10 years so far.

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                                        @dtl could I included it on my list? Happy to credit the image

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                                        • yngmar@social.tchncs.deY yngmar@social.tchncs.de

                                          @smallsolar In some flats where balcony solar isn't allowed because the landlord is a bastard, people have been building solar tables, which is just a panel with four legs. There is no rule against having a table on your balcony and no rule what a table has to be made of. You'll probably find many pictures if you search for "solartisch".

                                          They can be used as table as well (best use a table cloth to avoid scratching the glass, although it is pretty tough).

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                                          @yngmar @smallsolar

                                          Brilliant !!!

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