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  3. I have an issue with mounting a cheap smart watch in #linux: Device is seen by the kernel, but never registered as a storage device /dev/sd*:

I have an issue with mounting a cheap smart watch in #linux: Device is seen by the kernel, but never registered as a storage device /dev/sd*:

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  • root42@chaos.socialR root42@chaos.social

    I have an issue with mounting a cheap smart watch in #linux: Device is seen by the kernel, but never registered as a storage device /dev/sd*:

    usb 1-2: new full-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd
    usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0e8d, idProduct=0002, bcdDevice= 1.00
    ...
    usb-storage 1-2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
    scsi host0: usb-storage 1-2:1.0

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    @root42 Does it work with Windows or macOS without needing special drivers?

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    • dr_laemmerbein@mastodon.socialD dr_laemmerbein@mastodon.social

      @root42 Does it work with Windows or macOS without needing special drivers?

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      @dr_laemmerbein Yes, it works fine in macOS as mass storage. No issue. However I just noticed that no other USB mass storage gets detected either. This is on the 2017 13" MacBook Pro. I have tried a USB thumb drive (That I installed Mint off of!) and a card reader with an SD card. No dice. Something is seriously wrong.

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      • root42@chaos.socialR root42@chaos.social

        I have an issue with mounting a cheap smart watch in #linux: Device is seen by the kernel, but never registered as a storage device /dev/sd*:

        usb 1-2: new full-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd
        usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0e8d, idProduct=0002, bcdDevice= 1.00
        ...
        usb-storage 1-2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
        scsi host0: usb-storage 1-2:1.0

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        @root42 A USB storage device isn't mapped to /dev/sd*, since those are SATA devices. A USB flash drive reports itself as a SATA disk type so it gets mounted there, but this is probably under `/dev/mmcblk`

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        • root42@chaos.socialR root42@chaos.social

          I have an issue with mounting a cheap smart watch in #linux: Device is seen by the kernel, but never registered as a storage device /dev/sd*:

          usb 1-2: new full-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd
          usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0e8d, idProduct=0002, bcdDevice= 1.00
          ...
          usb-storage 1-2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
          scsi host0: usb-storage 1-2:1.0

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          #5

          Ok, the plot thickens. When booting from the Linux Mint USB stick, the USB ports work. But when booting the installed version, USB ports are broken. Why??

          zeri@chaos.socialZ mbpaz@mas.toM root42@chaos.socialR 3 Replies Last reply
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          • root42@chaos.socialR root42@chaos.social

            Ok, the plot thickens. When booting from the Linux Mint USB stick, the USB ports work. But when booting the installed version, USB ports are broken. Why??

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            @root42 lack of USB modules for the kernel that boots?

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            • root42@chaos.socialR root42@chaos.social

              Ok, the plot thickens. When booting from the Linux Mint USB stick, the USB ports work. But when booting the installed version, USB ports are broken. Why??

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              @root42 some udev rule in the installed version?

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              • zeri@chaos.socialZ zeri@chaos.social

                @root42 lack of USB modules for the kernel that boots?

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                @zeri could be! Which modules are required? Which package do they come in?

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                • mbpaz@mas.toM mbpaz@mas.to

                  @root42 some udev rule in the installed version?

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                  @mbpaz maybe…? Would that influence lsusb not showing the attached devices?

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                  • root42@chaos.socialR root42@chaos.social

                    @zeri could be! Which modules are required? Which package do they come in?

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                    @root42 don't know. But that's something it is probably safe to ask a chatbot ... worst case you load a module you don't need. Might also be that there are no modules because a kernel update failed.

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                    • root42@chaos.socialR root42@chaos.social

                      @zeri could be! Which modules are required? Which package do they come in?

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                      @root42 @zeri compare the output of `lsmod` from both kernels.

                      Capture `dmesg` too.

                      One or both (sets) should get you on the correct path.

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                      • drscriptt@oldbytes.spaceD drscriptt@oldbytes.space

                        @root42 @zeri compare the output of `lsmod` from both kernels.

                        Capture `dmesg` too.

                        One or both (sets) should get you on the correct path.

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                        @drscriptt @zeri yes, that’s my plan. Hope to find it’s just a module that’s missing.

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                        • root42@chaos.socialR root42@chaos.social

                          @mbpaz maybe…? Would that influence lsusb not showing the attached devices?

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                          @root42 @mbpaz potentially if usb_modeswitch is involved

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                          • cheesefox@infosec.exchangeC cheesefox@infosec.exchange

                            @root42 @mbpaz potentially if usb_modeswitch is involved

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                            @cheesefox I have to look that up. My active desktop Linux times have been 15 years ago. Quite a bit has changed since then.

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                            • root42@chaos.socialR root42@chaos.social

                              @drscriptt @zeri yes, that’s my plan. Hope to find it’s just a module that’s missing.

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                              @drscriptt So the output of lsmod is very similar on both. I installed an extra Intel sound driver, but that shouldn't interfere with USB, I think.

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                              • root42@chaos.socialR root42@chaos.social

                                Ok, the plot thickens. When booting from the Linux Mint USB stick, the USB ports work. But when booting the installed version, USB ports are broken. Why??

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                                So my current working hypothesis is: Live Linux Mint uses kernel 6.14, my installation uses kernel 6.17. This is probably what causes the regression?
                                So I might want to downgrade the kernel...
                                #linux #linuxmint

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                                • root42@chaos.socialR root42@chaos.social

                                  So my current working hypothesis is: Live Linux Mint uses kernel 6.14, my installation uses kernel 6.17. This is probably what causes the regression?
                                  So I might want to downgrade the kernel...
                                  #linux #linuxmint

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                                  Nope, that was not it. I downgraded to Linux 6.14.0-37, but USB still doesn't work. So it must be something with my installation! But what?

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                                  • root42@chaos.socialR root42@chaos.social

                                    Nope, that was not it. I downgraded to Linux 6.14.0-37, but USB still doesn't work. So it must be something with my installation! But what?

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                                    @root42 I still have some problemas mounting usb from friends in Ubuntu Focal. Can you believe that?
                                    May it be a permissions issue?

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                                    • root42@chaos.socialR root42@chaos.social

                                      Nope, that was not it. I downgraded to Linux 6.14.0-37, but USB still doesn't work. So it must be something with my installation! But what?

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                                      I am onto something: Attaching an OLD Apple keyboard with a USB-C to A adapter WORKS. But all my USB3.x devices do NOT work!
                                      So how do I tell the USB controller to also work with USB3 devices...? Which works on the live thumbdrive!

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                                      • root42@chaos.socialR root42@chaos.social

                                        Nope, that was not it. I downgraded to Linux 6.14.0-37, but USB still doesn't work. So it must be something with my installation! But what?

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                                        @root42 it sounds like it does not load some usb drivers. But for default usb never seen that happen.

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                                        • root42@chaos.socialR root42@chaos.social

                                          I am onto something: Attaching an OLD Apple keyboard with a USB-C to A adapter WORKS. But all my USB3.x devices do NOT work!
                                          So how do I tell the USB controller to also work with USB3 devices...? Which works on the live thumbdrive!

                                          Link Preview Image
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                                          Yes, so it seems the controller is stuck in EHCI mode, instead of switching to xHCI for USB3 devices. Bummer... how to switch it back...?

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