My son is 11,autistic, and obsessed with Minecraft.
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@StarkRG I'd agree if there were 40 of them but 4? Considering that the team members are typically highly involved in the hiring of new team members, humans tend to hire people "like us" and autistic people have a completely different communication style it seems highly likely that we'd hire folks who understood how to communicate with us (rarely allistic people) and thus…
@masukomi I don't think lower-management often get very involved in the hiring process. I suspect their bosses would do the hiring, and then assign the new employees to various teams. The closest that person probably gets to hiring someone is asking their boss for an extra hand for half the week.
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My son is 11,autistic, and obsessed with Minecraft. I manage a team of 4 Database Engineers. At some point I started to talk to them like how the parenting courses told me to communicate with my son and the team morale and overall performance has shot up so much we got an award
@fesshole That says a lot about your team tbh
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@fiend_unpleasant @fesshole That's actually a really unkind thing to say.
@crazyeddie @fiend_unpleasant @fesshole why, do you see autism as something bad?
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@crazyeddie @fiend_unpleasant @fesshole why, do you see autism as something bad?
@lizzard @crazyeddie @fesshole I have never seen autism as bad. However, I do see at there are some jobs that near perfect for certain types of autism. Database Engineers are often "spreadsheet autists" that found a good way to use that special skill they have to their advantage financially.
I was just unwilling to discuss it with some queef who was offended and wanted to make it my problem without creating a dialogue like you have here.
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@lizzard @crazyeddie @fesshole I have never seen autism as bad. However, I do see at there are some jobs that near perfect for certain types of autism. Database Engineers are often "spreadsheet autists" that found a good way to use that special skill they have to their advantage financially.
I was just unwilling to discuss it with some queef who was offended and wanted to make it my problem without creating a dialogue like you have here.
@fiend_unpleasant @crazyeddie @fesshole yeah, I meant them. I got what you were trying to say, and totally agree: the IT world has more than the average proportion of autistic people.
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@fiend_unpleasant @crazyeddie @fesshole yeah, I meant them. I got what you were trying to say, and totally agree: the IT world has more than the average proportion of autistic people.
@lizzard @crazyeddie @fesshole Ope, I'm usually the one being questioned. Carry on then.
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@walsonde @StarkRG @jonm this test is for you then: https://german.millermanschool.com/
Greetings from a fellow German autistic. -
@masukomi I don't think lower-management often get very involved in the hiring process. I suspect their bosses would do the hiring, and then assign the new employees to various teams. The closest that person probably gets to hiring someone is asking their boss for an extra hand for half the week.
@StarkRG i wasn’t talking about lower management. I was talking about the engineers. I’ve never worked at a place where the people on the team didn’t have the primary say on who gets hired for their team
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@walsonde @StarkRG @jonm this test is for you then: https://german.millermanschool.com/
Greetings from a fellow German autistic. -
@masukomi I don't think lower-management often get very involved in the hiring process. I suspect their bosses would do the hiring, and then assign the new employees to various teams. The closest that person probably gets to hiring someone is asking their boss for an extra hand for half the week.
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And yet, look at how many 2-year projects never get finished after half a decade or more.
Always double the time estimate, then double again. Helps to get rid of the non-essential "nice to haves" that people keep trying to add "because it won't take that much longer" .
Because EVERYONE keeps trying to bargain down how long something should take, even though THEY CAN NOT DO IT THEMSELVES.
Trying to meet unreasonable deadlines, even if you succeed, just adds technical debt. Glad I'm retired, because if there's one thing I've learned, it's that management can't even manage themselves effectively. That's why they went into management. Because only those who can do, do. Those who can't go into management.
@barbra @StarkRG Technical debt is one of the things that drove me out of the industry. When combined with the unwillingness to walk away from sunk costs, the vast majority of my budgets maintained the status quo. This resulted in a lack of progress. When AI arrived I was tasked with creating a shadow data infrastructure to serve the machine. Shadow because I still needed validated systems to actually generate and maintain the data.
I was happily given the severence I requested as I had become insufferable about this topic.
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@fiend_unpleasant @crazyeddie @fesshole yeah, I meant them. I got what you were trying to say, and totally agree: the IT world has more than the average proportion of autistic people.
@lizzard @fiend_unpleasant @crazyeddie @fesshole IT department where i work is majority neurospicy. not all diagnosed, but some of them are kind of obvious? (i'm an autist myself.)
personal take: hire us for IT! we're good at it!
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@jonm Most of all, give people the time to complete their tasks in the way that best works for them. Deadlines are an unfortunate fact of life, but don't create unnecessary deadlines that just stress people out, and try to plan for both people to be slower and more meticulous and for unforseen delays. You don't need to go all Scotty and quadruple any time estimate, but at least increase it by half if not doubling it.
(2/2)Yeah, I'm not seeing anything there that's specific to autism. That's sage advice for dealing with just about anybody.
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This must be why all those people fled from England to America back in the day.
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@fiend_unpleasant @fesshole That's actually a really unkind thing to say.
@crazyeddie @fiend_unpleasant @fesshole something wrong with being autistic?
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@walsonde @StarkRG @jonm this test is for you then: https://german.millermanschool.com/
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@sldrant "Now you're just arguing semantics." Yeah, no shit, I'm arguing semantics, because the meaning of the words being used to communicate directly influences what's actually being communicated. If we don't make sure we're all using approximately the same meanings, then you get the issue where the term "inflammable" was assumed to mean "not flammable".
@StarkRG @sldrant Highly recommend "The Tyranny Of Words" by Stuart Chase (1938)
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2343374.The_Tyranny_of_Words
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My son is 11,autistic, and obsessed with Minecraft. I manage a team of 4 Database Engineers. At some point I started to talk to them like how the parenting courses told me to communicate with my son and the team morale and overall performance has shot up so much we got an award
@fesshole
Your parenting course is good.
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@argv_minus_one @StarkRG @jonm funny enough, today I wouldn't flee from Germany to England, but I'm genuinely considering emigrating to Scotland.
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@argv_minus_one @StarkRG @jonm funny enough, today I wouldn't flee from Germany to England, but I'm genuinely considering emigrating to Scotland.
Thank you!
