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My son is 11,autistic, and obsessed with Minecraft.

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  • shadowwwind@fosstodon.orgS shadowwwind@fosstodon.org

    @fesshole i have heard from teachers, that the special courses they take when they start to teach their first autistic children, help them more to understand and manage all children, than anything they had learned before.

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    @shadowwwind @fesshole I believe it. The work courses I have taken, due to me managing and working with ND people have definitely made me a better parent of my ND kid (maybe kids - we're awaiting assessment).

    Tbh, I think I'm a better husband, too.

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    • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

      @fesshole

      What does Minecraft have to do with any of this haha

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      @fesshole

      I kept waiting for him to use a Minecraft analogy with his team to motivate them to beat the dragon or something but nah, Minecraft was just a red herring

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      • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

        My son is 11,autistic, and obsessed with Minecraft. I manage a team of 4 Database Engineers. At some point I started to talk to them like how the parenting courses told me to communicate with my son and the team morale and overall performance has shot up so much we got an award

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        @fesshole Not the first time I hear such story. The son of a friend learned about 0-days and log4j also through minecraft and 1000 user server. Got his incident response training at an early age ..,

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        • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

          My son is 11,autistic, and obsessed with Minecraft. I manage a team of 4 Database Engineers. At some point I started to talk to them like how the parenting courses told me to communicate with my son and the team morale and overall performance has shot up so much we got an award

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          @fesshole I'm a tech leader of a team of 4 developers. I'm really interested in this kind of communication skills. Is there any written documentation about it?

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          • masukomi@connectified.comM masukomi@connectified.com

            @StarkRG I'd agree if there were 40 of them but 4? Considering that the team members are typically highly involved in the hiring of new team members, humans tend to hire people "like us" and autistic people have a completely different communication style it seems highly likely that we'd hire folks who understood how to communicate with us (rarely allistic people) and thus…

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            @masukomi I don't think lower-management often get very involved in the hiring process. I suspect their bosses would do the hiring, and then assign the new employees to various teams. The closest that person probably gets to hiring someone is asking their boss for an extra hand for half the week.

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            • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

              My son is 11,autistic, and obsessed with Minecraft. I manage a team of 4 Database Engineers. At some point I started to talk to them like how the parenting courses told me to communicate with my son and the team morale and overall performance has shot up so much we got an award

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              @fesshole That says a lot about your team tbh

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              • crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC crazyeddie@mastodon.social

                @fiend_unpleasant @fesshole That's actually a really unkind thing to say.

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                @crazyeddie @fiend_unpleasant @fesshole why, do you see autism as something bad?

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                • lizzard@social.tchncs.deL lizzard@social.tchncs.de

                  @crazyeddie @fiend_unpleasant @fesshole why, do you see autism as something bad?

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                  @lizzard @crazyeddie @fesshole I have never seen autism as bad. However, I do see at there are some jobs that near perfect for certain types of autism. Database Engineers are often "spreadsheet autists" that found a good way to use that special skill they have to their advantage financially.

                  I was just unwilling to discuss it with some queef who was offended and wanted to make it my problem without creating a dialogue like you have here.

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                  • fiend_unpleasant@mastodon.socialF fiend_unpleasant@mastodon.social

                    @lizzard @crazyeddie @fesshole I have never seen autism as bad. However, I do see at there are some jobs that near perfect for certain types of autism. Database Engineers are often "spreadsheet autists" that found a good way to use that special skill they have to their advantage financially.

                    I was just unwilling to discuss it with some queef who was offended and wanted to make it my problem without creating a dialogue like you have here.

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                    @fiend_unpleasant @crazyeddie @fesshole yeah, I meant them. I got what you were trying to say, and totally agree: the IT world has more than the average proportion of autistic people.

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                    • lizzard@social.tchncs.deL lizzard@social.tchncs.de

                      @fiend_unpleasant @crazyeddie @fesshole yeah, I meant them. I got what you were trying to say, and totally agree: the IT world has more than the average proportion of autistic people.

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                      @lizzard @crazyeddie @fesshole Ope, I'm usually the one being questioned. Carry on then.

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                      • walsonde@antifa.styleW walsonde@antifa.style

                        @StarkRG @jonm addendum: it's easier in German culture because we don't need to tiptoe around allegedly hurtful things like saying no. we just say no, when we mean no. I have English relatives and spent a lot of time in England. For me, that's very exhausting because noone says what they mean.

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                        @walsonde @StarkRG @jonm this test is for you then: https://german.millermanschool.com/ πŸ˜‰
                        Greetings from a fellow German autistic.

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                        • starkrg@myside-yourside.netS starkrg@myside-yourside.net

                          @masukomi I don't think lower-management often get very involved in the hiring process. I suspect their bosses would do the hiring, and then assign the new employees to various teams. The closest that person probably gets to hiring someone is asking their boss for an extra hand for half the week.

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                          @StarkRG i wasn’t talking about lower management. I was talking about the engineers. I’ve never worked at a place where the people on the team didn’t have the primary say on who gets hired for their team

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                          • lizzard@social.tchncs.deL lizzard@social.tchncs.de

                            @walsonde @StarkRG @jonm this test is for you then: https://german.millermanschool.com/ πŸ˜‰
                            Greetings from a fellow German autistic.

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                            @lizzard @StarkRG @jonm this is hilarious. I enjoyed the test and feel seen by the result. πŸ˜„ Thank you!

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                            • starkrg@myside-yourside.netS starkrg@myside-yourside.net

                              @masukomi I don't think lower-management often get very involved in the hiring process. I suspect their bosses would do the hiring, and then assign the new employees to various teams. The closest that person probably gets to hiring someone is asking their boss for an extra hand for half the week.

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                              @StarkRG @masukomi They absolutely do. Usually they write the first draft of the position requirements, and are the second tier interviewers (with first as well as last right of rejection).

                              Source: That used to be part of my job.

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                              • B barbra@social.vivaldi.net

                                @StarkRG

                                And yet, look at how many 2-year projects never get finished after half a decade or more.

                                Always double the time estimate, then double again. Helps to get rid of the non-essential "nice to haves" that people keep trying to add "because it won't take that much longer" .

                                Because EVERYONE keeps trying to bargain down how long something should take, even though THEY CAN NOT DO IT THEMSELVES.

                                Trying to meet unreasonable deadlines, even if you succeed, just adds technical debt. Glad I'm retired, because if there's one thing I've learned, it's that management can't even manage themselves effectively. That's why they went into management. Because only those who can do, do. Those who can't go into management.

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                                @barbra @StarkRG Technical debt is one of the things that drove me out of the industry. When combined with the unwillingness to walk away from sunk costs, the vast majority of my budgets maintained the status quo. This resulted in a lack of progress. When AI arrived I was tasked with creating a shadow data infrastructure to serve the machine. Shadow because I still needed validated systems to actually generate and maintain the data.

                                I was happily given the severence I requested as I had become insufferable about this topic.

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                                • lizzard@social.tchncs.deL lizzard@social.tchncs.de

                                  @fiend_unpleasant @crazyeddie @fesshole yeah, I meant them. I got what you were trying to say, and totally agree: the IT world has more than the average proportion of autistic people.

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                                  @lizzard @fiend_unpleasant @crazyeddie @fesshole IT department where i work is majority neurospicy. not all diagnosed, but some of them are kind of obvious? (i'm an autist myself.)

                                  personal take: hire us for IT! we're good at it!

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                                  • starkrg@myside-yourside.netS starkrg@myside-yourside.net

                                    @jonm Most of all, give people the time to complete their tasks in the way that best works for them. Deadlines are an unfortunate fact of life, but don't create unnecessary deadlines that just stress people out, and try to plan for both people to be slower and more meticulous and for unforseen delays. You don't need to go all Scotty and quadruple any time estimate, but at least increase it by half if not doubling it.
                                    (2/2)

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                                    @StarkRG @jonm

                                    Yeah, I'm not seeing anything there that's specific to autism. That's sage advice for dealing with just about anybody.

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                                    • walsonde@antifa.styleW walsonde@antifa.style

                                      @StarkRG @jonm addendum: it's easier in German culture because we don't need to tiptoe around allegedly hurtful things like saying no. we just say no, when we mean no. I have English relatives and spent a lot of time in England. For me, that's very exhausting because noone says what they mean.

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                                      @walsonde

                                      This must be why all those people fled from England to America back in the day. 😜

                                      @StarkRG @jonm

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                                      • crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC crazyeddie@mastodon.social

                                        @fiend_unpleasant @fesshole That's actually a really unkind thing to say.

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                                        @crazyeddie @fiend_unpleasant @fesshole something wrong with being autistic?

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                                        • lizzard@social.tchncs.deL lizzard@social.tchncs.de

                                          @walsonde @StarkRG @jonm this test is for you then: https://german.millermanschool.com/ πŸ˜‰
                                          Greetings from a fellow German autistic.

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                                          @lizzard Yes. πŸ˜„ @walsonde @StarkRG @jonm

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