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  • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

    Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

    Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

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    @mcnado Well, at least they are not taking Hydroxychloriquine again (Last time I think they caused a shortage for people who actually need it).

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    • autolycos@beige.partyA autolycos@beige.party

      @mcnado wow, is this dart board method medicine or grift method medicine they keep proposing?

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      @autolycos @mcnado it's just stupid deep state paranoia.
      "They're out to get us and make money, so they won't let us have the good stuff"

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      • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

        Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

        Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

        labspokane@mas.toL This user is from outside of this forum
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        @mcnado OK, but vitamin C ... <ducks flying chair>

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        • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

          Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

          Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

          pinsk@freeradical.zoneP This user is from outside of this forum
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          @mcnado

          Do I need to know about the OK theory?

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          • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

            Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

            Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

            vonxylofon@witter.czV This user is from outside of this forum
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            @mcnado Meanwhile, ivermectin isn't approved worldwide for scabies, a thing in humans it actually solves.

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            • scienceisnotopinions@mstdn.caS scienceisnotopinions@mstdn.ca

              @mcnado It was never an Okay theory. It's a horse dewormer. 🙄

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              @Scienceisnotopinions @mcnado before it had been properly investigated, it wasn't such a far-fetched idea that ivermectin could have off-target benefits like mitigating covid symptoms. after all, weirder things have turned out to be essential medicines, like the compounds produced by mould (penicillin). there are also some existing medicines that work, even though we don't know how (like lithium).

              of course now we know that ivermectin is useless against covid. but dismissing unusual ideas without investigating them could mean leaving future cures undiscovered.

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              • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

                Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

                Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

                ctminfocom@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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                @mcnado
                Biology and medicine still remain domains where 100% precise information does not yet exist.

                Where there is too much uncertainty, contradiction, and unverifiable hypotheses, fraud, manipulation, and false hopes inevitably appear.

                That is why humanity needs systems built on maximum precise and verifiable information.

                ORCID

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                • shnooflebear@curly.catS shnooflebear@curly.cat

                  @mcnado Shhhhhh, let them take it this time...

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                  @ShnoofleBear @mcnado damm right

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                    @RevXenoFact @mcnado perfect!

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                    • oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.socialO oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.social

                      @mcnado

                      Okay, but wouldn't you agree that taking 8 quarts a day of tea brewed with swamp water and poison ivy and civet poop will prevent you from ever getting a virus?

                      Just joshing. Please don't firebomb my outhouse. 🥴

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                      @oldclumsy_nowmad @mcnado any Virus plus bacteria

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                      • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

                        Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

                        Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

                        maristya@norden.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @mcnado horseshit. Quite literally…

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                        • labspokane@mas.toL labspokane@mas.to

                          @mcnado OK, but vitamin C ... <ducks flying chair>

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                          @LabSpokane @mcnado roflol

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                          • ctminfocom@fosstodon.orgC ctminfocom@fosstodon.org

                            @mcnado
                            Biology and medicine still remain domains where 100% precise information does not yet exist.

                            Where there is too much uncertainty, contradiction, and unverifiable hypotheses, fraud, manipulation, and false hopes inevitably appear.

                            That is why humanity needs systems built on maximum precise and verifiable information.

                            ORCID

                            favicon

                            (orcid.org)

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                            @ctminfocom @mcnado amen

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                            • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

                              Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

                              Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

                              qole@techhub.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @mcnado @pluralistic
                              This got me thinking, what IS a better snake oil? I realized that it's probably something utterly without any effects at all, because at least it doesn't actively HARM the person taking it, like Ivermectin does.

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                              • tjbutt58@infosec.exchangeT tjbutt58@infosec.exchange

                                @autolycos @mcnado it's just stupid deep state paranoia.
                                "They're out to get us and make money, so they won't let us have the good stuff"

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                                @tjbutt58 all the while it's the deep states that keep countries running when the public-facing politics are in scrambles.

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                                • qole@techhub.socialQ qole@techhub.social

                                  @mcnado @pluralistic
                                  This got me thinking, what IS a better snake oil? I realized that it's probably something utterly without any effects at all, because at least it doesn't actively HARM the person taking it, like Ivermectin does.

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                                  @qole @mcnado @pluralistic I like the own urine plus something abundant way; pretty sustainable.

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                                  • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

                                    Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

                                    Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

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                                    @mcnado Treated several cases in residency ? Ouch.

                                    Which country are you based in ?
                                    (Also, were the specific strains involved identified ? How was the rate of survival in your case.)

                                    (And for anyone preaching Ivermectin again)

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                                    • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

                                      Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

                                      Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

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                                      @mcnado @Guillotine_Jones They should totally save their money for a Trump Mobile phone.

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                                      • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

                                        Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

                                        Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

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                                        @mcnado from what I recollect the thinnest sliver of Ivermectin correlation came from a study done in the developing world.

                                        The developing world it turns out, has a non-trivial amount of parasite hosting people. Which is what ivermectin was actually used for in veterinary medicine - treatment of intestinal parasites. So yeah, a statistically significant amount of people got better in these studies.

                                        It took time to identify what was really going on in that study. All of this flies 7,000' above Joe Rogan's head and gets left completely out of the conversation happening around Ivermectin by then.

                                        In the context of the hunta virus however... Just no. Like WTF stupid. It's flood the zone BS. Noise. Stupid shit to occupy the limited mental bandwidth of the bottom 1/2 of the bell curve.

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                                        • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

                                          Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

                                          Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

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                                          @mcnado NO FUCKING JOKE ! We ( 4 weeks ago ) had to go through a mini-nightmare of red tape to GET MEDICINE FOR A SICK HORSE THAT NEEDED IT because "no I want the original paper", "no I want to speak with the vet", "no I need to receive this by mail first" .. and I'd bet it's precisely because of humans trying to get horse medications for their own use !! Yeah get <horse stuff> and end up anaemic and/or with your liver or else destroyed .. they are NOT made for human biology !

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