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Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

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  • shnooflebear@curly.catS shnooflebear@curly.cat

    @mcnado Shhhhhh, let them take it this time...

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    @ShnoofleBear @mcnado damm right

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      @RevXenoFact @mcnado perfect!

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      • oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.socialO oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.social

        @mcnado

        Okay, but wouldn't you agree that taking 8 quarts a day of tea brewed with swamp water and poison ivy and civet poop will prevent you from ever getting a virus?

        Just joshing. Please don't firebomb my outhouse. 🥴

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        @oldclumsy_nowmad @mcnado any Virus plus bacteria

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        • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

          Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

          Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

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          @mcnado horseshit. Quite literally…

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          • labspokane@mas.toL labspokane@mas.to

            @mcnado OK, but vitamin C ... <ducks flying chair>

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            @LabSpokane @mcnado roflol

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            • ctminfocom@fosstodon.orgC ctminfocom@fosstodon.org

              @mcnado
              Biology and medicine still remain domains where 100% precise information does not yet exist.

              Where there is too much uncertainty, contradiction, and unverifiable hypotheses, fraud, manipulation, and false hopes inevitably appear.

              That is why humanity needs systems built on maximum precise and verifiable information.

              ORCID

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              (orcid.org)

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              @ctminfocom @mcnado amen

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              • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

                Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

                Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

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                @mcnado @pluralistic
                This got me thinking, what IS a better snake oil? I realized that it's probably something utterly without any effects at all, because at least it doesn't actively HARM the person taking it, like Ivermectin does.

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                • tjbutt58@infosec.exchangeT tjbutt58@infosec.exchange

                  @autolycos @mcnado it's just stupid deep state paranoia.
                  "They're out to get us and make money, so they won't let us have the good stuff"

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                  @tjbutt58 all the while it's the deep states that keep countries running when the public-facing politics are in scrambles.

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                  • qole@techhub.socialQ qole@techhub.social

                    @mcnado @pluralistic
                    This got me thinking, what IS a better snake oil? I realized that it's probably something utterly without any effects at all, because at least it doesn't actively HARM the person taking it, like Ivermectin does.

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                    @qole @mcnado @pluralistic I like the own urine plus something abundant way; pretty sustainable.

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                    • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

                      Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

                      Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

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                      @mcnado Treated several cases in residency ? Ouch.

                      Which country are you based in ?
                      (Also, were the specific strains involved identified ? How was the rate of survival in your case.)

                      (And for anyone preaching Ivermectin again)

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                      • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

                        Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

                        Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

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                        @mcnado @Guillotine_Jones They should totally save their money for a Trump Mobile phone.

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                        • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

                          Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

                          Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

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                          @mcnado from what I recollect the thinnest sliver of Ivermectin correlation came from a study done in the developing world.

                          The developing world it turns out, has a non-trivial amount of parasite hosting people. Which is what ivermectin was actually used for in veterinary medicine - treatment of intestinal parasites. So yeah, a statistically significant amount of people got better in these studies.

                          It took time to identify what was really going on in that study. All of this flies 7,000' above Joe Rogan's head and gets left completely out of the conversation happening around Ivermectin by then.

                          In the context of the hunta virus however... Just no. Like WTF stupid. It's flood the zone BS. Noise. Stupid shit to occupy the limited mental bandwidth of the bottom 1/2 of the bell curve.

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                          • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

                            Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

                            Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

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                            @mcnado NO FUCKING JOKE ! We ( 4 weeks ago ) had to go through a mini-nightmare of red tape to GET MEDICINE FOR A SICK HORSE THAT NEEDED IT because "no I want the original paper", "no I want to speak with the vet", "no I need to receive this by mail first" .. and I'd bet it's precisely because of humans trying to get horse medications for their own use !! Yeah get <horse stuff> and end up anaemic and/or with your liver or else destroyed .. they are NOT made for human biology !

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                            • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

                              Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

                              Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

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                              @mcnado pretty sure my village made a cocktail out of ivermectin for these asshats. Head on down to waterside and get you a wiggler on the roof.

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                              • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

                                Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

                                Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

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                                @mcnado I absolutely love how it immediately resurfaced. These people are just so amazingly stupid.

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                                • sobex@social.sciences.reS sobex@social.sciences.re

                                  @mcnado Treated several cases in residency ? Ouch.

                                  Which country are you based in ?
                                  (Also, were the specific strains involved identified ? How was the rate of survival in your case.)

                                  (And for anyone preaching Ivermectin again)

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                                  @Sobex the Southwestern US has Sin Nombre virus, which causes classic hantavirus pulmonary syndrome. I don’t know the fatality rate off hand in our ICU, but it was significant. There was no timely test, so it was a guessing game using the clinical score put together by UNMH. Typically folks had a prolonged ICU stay, intubated and on renal replacement, until the ARDS, sepsis, or shock caught up with them.

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                                  • pinsk@freeradical.zoneP pinsk@freeradical.zone

                                    @mcnado

                                    Do I need to know about the OK theory?

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                                    @pinsk I don’t recall why, but multiple labs thought it might have antiviral effects. Multiple mechanisms were proposed, but none proven, and in vivo studies showed it doesn’t work. Also not harmful at normal doses, but ineffective.

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                                    • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

                                      Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

                                      Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

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                                      @mcnado

                                      I don`t give f..k who is stupid enough for snake oil , but the real problem is, Ivermectin is now more expensive and even our vet hospital can not get it anywhere - for HORSES.

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                                      • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

                                        Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

                                        Ivermectin doesn’t do shit for hantavirus. I know. I treated multiple cases in residency. Can we stop with the antihelminthic for viruses shit already?!? It was an OK theory, but it hasn’t panned out, and dumb motherfuckers who just can’t seem to live their lives without pissing away their savings on some grifter’s horseshit need to find a better snake oil. Jesus. Fuck.

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                                        @mcnado The real cure was announced in April 2020. It brings ultraviolet light inside the body, which should handle the virus more quickly than the release of the Epistein files.

                                        As a backup, there are disinfectants such as bleach that can also go inside the body, maybe as an injection or something like that.

                                        /s

                                        Be sure to pray to the new golden calf statue once it works.

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