Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

[wingedsnake@mastodon.berlin]

@oldclumsy_nowmad @mcnado any Virus plus bacteria

[maristya@norden.social]

@mcnado horseshit. Quite literally…

[wingedsnake@mastodon.berlin]

@LabSpokane @mcnado roflol

[wingedsnake@mastodon.berlin]

@ctminfocom @mcnado amen

[qole@techhub.social]

@mcnado @pluralistic
This got me thinking, what IS a better snake oil? I realized that it's probably something utterly without any effects at all, because at least it doesn't actively HARM the person taking it, like Ivermectin does.

[ee@mastodon.nl]

@tjbutt58 all the while it's the deep states that keep countries running when the public-facing politics are in scrambles.

[alinkenbach@mastodon.social]

@qole @mcnado @pluralistic I like the own urine plus something abundant way; pretty sustainable.

[sobex@social.sciences.re]

@mcnado Treated several cases in residency ? Ouch.

Which country are you based in ?
(Also, were the specific strains involved identified ? How was the rate of survival in your case.)

(And for anyone preaching Ivermectin again)

[davidbcohen@twit.social]

@mcnado @Guillotine_Jones They should totally save their money for a Trump Mobile phone.

[overtondoors@infosec.exchange]

@mcnado from what I recollect the thinnest sliver of Ivermectin correlation came from a study done in the developing world.

The developing world it turns out, has a non-trivial amount of parasite hosting people. Which is what ivermectin was actually used for in veterinary medicine - treatment of intestinal parasites. So yeah, a statistically significant amount of people got better in these studies.

It took time to identify what was really going on in that study. All of this flies 7,000' above Joe Rogan's head and gets left completely out of the conversation happening around Ivermectin by then.

In the context of the hunta virus however... Just no. Like WTF stupid. It's flood the zone BS. Noise. Stupid shit to occupy the limited mental bandwidth of the bottom 1/2 of the bell curve.

[gilesgoat@toot.wales]

@mcnado NO FUCKING JOKE ! We ( 4 weeks ago ) had to go through a mini-nightmare of red tape to GET MEDICINE FOR A SICK HORSE THAT NEEDED IT because "no I want the original paper", "no I want to speak with the vet", "no I need to receive this by mail first" .. and I'd bet it's precisely because of humans trying to get horse medications for their own use !! Yeah get <horse stuff> and end up anaemic and/or with your liver or else destroyed .. they are NOT made for human biology !

[completelyratchet@mastodon.world]

@mcnado pretty sure my village made a cocktail out of ivermectin for these asshats. Head on down to waterside and get you a wiggler on the roof.

[phl@mastodon.social]

@mcnado I absolutely love how it immediately resurfaced. These people are just so amazingly stupid.

[mcnado@mstdn.social]

@Sobex the Southwestern US has Sin Nombre virus, which causes classic hantavirus pulmonary syndrome. I don’t know the fatality rate off hand in our ICU, but it was significant. There was no timely test, so it was a guessing game using the clinical score put together by UNMH. Typically folks had a prolonged ICU stay, intubated and on renal replacement, until the ARDS, sepsis, or shock caught up with them.

[mcnado@mstdn.social]

@pinsk I don’t recall why, but multiple labs thought it might have antiviral effects. Multiple mechanisms were proposed, but none proven, and in vivo studies showed it doesn’t work. Also not harmful at normal doses, but ineffective.

[onirakkiss@ioc.exchange]

@mcnado

I don`t give f..k who is stupid enough for snake oil , but the real problem is, Ivermectin is now more expensive and even our vet hospital can not get it anywhere - for HORSES.

[arem@mstdn.ca]

@mcnado The real cure was announced in April 2020. It brings ultraviolet light inside the body, which should handle the virus more quickly than the release of the Epistein files.

As a backup, there are disinfectants such as bleach that can also go inside the body, maybe as an injection or something like that.

/s

Be sure to pray to the new golden calf statue once it works.