Oh FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

[beachbum@mastodon.sdf.org]

@mcnado honestly, I know two people who took ivermectin instead of getting vaccines. One girl just died from pancreatic cancer that she developed about a year after having Covid twice. Her niece has had trouble with her eyes, depression, stomach issues.
I don’t know that there’s a correlation, but they were perfectly healthy before Covid and ivermectin. I can’t imagine that taking random doses over-the-counter ivermectin would be good for your health.

[tasharoni@a2mi.social]

@mcnado Well, at least they are not taking Hydroxychloriquine again (Last time I think they caused a shortage for people who actually need it).

[tjbutt58@infosec.exchange]

@autolycos @mcnado it's just stupid deep state paranoia.
"They're out to get us and make money, so they won't let us have the good stuff"

[labspokane@mas.to]

@mcnado OK, but vitamin C ... <ducks flying chair>

[pinsk@freeradical.zone]

@mcnado

Do I need to know about the OK theory?

[vonxylofon@witter.cz]

@mcnado Meanwhile, ivermectin isn't approved worldwide for scabies, a thing in humans it actually solves.

[ignova@sunny.garden]

@Scienceisnotopinions @mcnado before it had been properly investigated, it wasn't such a far-fetched idea that ivermectin could have off-target benefits like mitigating covid symptoms. after all, weirder things have turned out to be essential medicines, like the compounds produced by mould (penicillin). there are also some existing medicines that work, even though we don't know how (like lithium).

of course now we know that ivermectin is useless against covid. but dismissing unusual ideas without investigating them could mean leaving future cures undiscovered.

[ctminfocom@fosstodon.org]

@mcnado
Biology and medicine still remain domains where 100% precise information does not yet exist.

Where there is too much uncertainty, contradiction, and unverifiable hypotheses, fraud, manipulation, and false hopes inevitably appear.

That is why humanity needs systems built on maximum precise and verifiable information.

ORCID

(orcid.org)

[wingedsnake@mastodon.berlin]

@ShnoofleBear @mcnado damm right

[wingedsnake@mastodon.berlin]

@RevXenoFact @mcnado perfect!

[wingedsnake@mastodon.berlin]

@oldclumsy_nowmad @mcnado any Virus plus bacteria

[maristya@norden.social]

@mcnado horseshit. Quite literally…

[wingedsnake@mastodon.berlin]

@LabSpokane @mcnado roflol

[wingedsnake@mastodon.berlin]

@ctminfocom @mcnado amen

[qole@techhub.social]

@mcnado @pluralistic
This got me thinking, what IS a better snake oil? I realized that it's probably something utterly without any effects at all, because at least it doesn't actively HARM the person taking it, like Ivermectin does.

[ee@mastodon.nl]

@tjbutt58 all the while it's the deep states that keep countries running when the public-facing politics are in scrambles.

[alinkenbach@mastodon.social]

@qole @mcnado @pluralistic I like the own urine plus something abundant way; pretty sustainable.

[sobex@social.sciences.re]

@mcnado Treated several cases in residency ? Ouch.

Which country are you based in ?
(Also, were the specific strains involved identified ? How was the rate of survival in your case.)

(And for anyone preaching Ivermectin again)

[davidbcohen@twit.social]

@mcnado @Guillotine_Jones They should totally save their money for a Trump Mobile phone.

[overtondoors@infosec.exchange]

@mcnado from what I recollect the thinnest sliver of Ivermectin correlation came from a study done in the developing world.

The developing world it turns out, has a non-trivial amount of parasite hosting people. Which is what ivermectin was actually used for in veterinary medicine - treatment of intestinal parasites. So yeah, a statistically significant amount of people got better in these studies.

It took time to identify what was really going on in that study. All of this flies 7,000' above Joe Rogan's head and gets left completely out of the conversation happening around Ivermectin by then.

In the context of the hunta virus however... Just no. Like WTF stupid. It's flood the zone BS. Noise. Stupid shit to occupy the limited mental bandwidth of the bottom 1/2 of the bell curve.