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Nearly three-quarters (72%) of citizens agree: our union brings real benefits.

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  • aurochs@todon.euA aurochs@todon.eu

    @phl @benroyce @jtb @EUCommission They are appointed and ratified by directly elected people, you control them as much as you control those who elected them.

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    @aurochs @phl @jtb @EUCommission

    thank you for showing up and clearing the air here

    as an american i'm out of my depth, but i sense this perfectionist shouting for what it is, a right wing troll angle

    and i allowed these two characters some leeway, but you have set me straight

    fuck this psyop

    whether these two character are authentic or not, it does not matter, the effect is the same: toxic idealism "from the left" only works for the right. unknowingly, or as a conscious troll effort

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    • aurochs@todon.euA aurochs@todon.eu

      @phl @benroyce @jtb @EUCommission They are appointed and ratified by directly elected people, you control them as much as you control those who elected them.

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      #112

      @phl @benroyce @jtb @EUCommission I think (this is just my opinion) it is designed this way to force consensus between member states (such as "Hey, Mr. Orban, you accepted to appoin Von Der Leyen").

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @aurochs @phl @jtb @EUCommission

        thank you for showing up and clearing the air here

        as an american i'm out of my depth, but i sense this perfectionist shouting for what it is, a right wing troll angle

        and i allowed these two characters some leeway, but you have set me straight

        fuck this psyop

        whether these two character are authentic or not, it does not matter, the effect is the same: toxic idealism "from the left" only works for the right. unknowingly, or as a conscious troll effort

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        #113

        @benroyce @aurochs @jtb @EUCommission Yes, this is surely all a perfectionist hypercritical faragist anti-eu psyop, something that definitely exists and us two are either victims of it or, horror, actual perfectionist hypercritical faragist any-eu psyop agents even! Very realistic, and doesn't at all ignore every single god damned detail we more or less patiently discussed and argued with you.

        What the everloving crap was the point yapping here for two hours if you didn't understand a word.

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        • phl@mastodon.socialP phl@mastodon.social

          @benroyce @aurochs @jtb @EUCommission Yes, this is surely all a perfectionist hypercritical faragist anti-eu psyop, something that definitely exists and us two are either victims of it or, horror, actual perfectionist hypercritical faragist any-eu psyop agents even! Very realistic, and doesn't at all ignore every single god damned detail we more or less patiently discussed and argued with you.

          What the everloving crap was the point yapping here for two hours if you didn't understand a word.

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          @phl @aurochs @jtb @EUCommission

          unread

          uninterested

          you and i are done

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            @paranormal_distribution@fosstodon.org @EUCommission

            The reason they didn't post it is because the report you cite is not from the European Commission.

            Please learn to read before throwing accusations around.

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @richlv @paranormal_distribution@fosstodon.org @EUCommission

              as an american i'm looking at the collection of thinly veiled right wing trolls and hypercritical toxic idealists responding here

              and i recognize it well

              because it was these social media voices that helped kill the usa

              people don't understand what they have until they lose it

              all they seem to have is an extreme sense of entitlement to *demand* perfect now. and little understanding of what it takes to *work* towards better

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              @benroyce @richlv @paranormal_distribution@fosstodon.org @EUCommission

              Amen

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              • jmaris@eupolicy.socialJ jmaris@eupolicy.social

                @benroyce @richlv @paranormal_distribution@fosstodon.org @EUCommission

                Amen

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                @jmaris @richlv @paranormal_distribution@fosstodon.org @EUCommission

                every time i see EUCommission post, i see sordid displays of toxic idealism in reply

                i need to get out my popcorn every time

                people really need to understand that shouting into the void for perfection is not morality, nor the basis of a valid post

                replying to social media accounts of govt agencies with unhinged hypercriticism is meaningless dopamine hits for the ego only

                if they want *better* (fuck perfect) then do *real work* for that

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @richlv @paranormal_distribution@fosstodon.org @EUCommission

                  as an american i'm looking at the collection of thinly veiled right wing trolls and hypercritical toxic idealists responding here

                  and i recognize it well

                  because it was these social media voices that helped kill the usa

                  people don't understand what they have until they lose it

                  all they seem to have is an extreme sense of entitlement to *demand* perfect now. and little understanding of what it takes to *work* towards better

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                  #118

                  @benroyce @richlv @paranormal_distribution@fosstodon.org @EUCommission
                  My guess, it's the long, VERY long "cultivated" "...is the best country in the world." view, combined with an none education about the "rest" of the world.
                  Me me me ...and someone like the ugly stain in the WH is just the extreme example/peak of it.
                  That narcissistic arrogance....

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                  • grootinside@troet.cafeG grootinside@troet.cafe

                    @benroyce @richlv @paranormal_distribution@fosstodon.org @EUCommission
                    My guess, it's the long, VERY long "cultivated" "...is the best country in the world." view, combined with an none education about the "rest" of the world.
                    Me me me ...and someone like the ugly stain in the WH is just the extreme example/peak of it.
                    That narcissistic arrogance....

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                    @grootinside @richlv @paranormal_distribution@fosstodon.org @EUCommission

                    it's a symptom of people who have forgotten what they have and have forgotten how to maintain it

                    they just shout demands for perfection and can do no real work. they don't even know how

                    they are too entitled

                    and as their world crumbles, they respond by simply complaining more

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @grootinside @richlv @paranormal_distribution@fosstodon.org @EUCommission

                      it's a symptom of people who have forgotten what they have and have forgotten how to maintain it

                      they just shout demands for perfection and can do no real work. they don't even know how

                      they are too entitled

                      and as their world crumbles, they respond by simply complaining more

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                      @benroyce @richlv @paranormal_distribution@fosstodon.org @EUCommission
                      The sad and scary part is that at the same time, they are willing to give up a lot of freedom, which they take for granted or even do not recognize as such, in order to expect their self-centered demands to be met.
                      Even if that means to support autocratic, violent systems.

                      And yes that "Karen mind" exists everywhere. ๐Ÿ˜’

                      As usual we do the same here in germany, just a bit delayed and a bit different. But same vibes... same direction...

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                      • ehrt74@mastodon.socialE ehrt74@mastodon.social

                        @RegGuy @benroyce @richlv @paranormal_distribution@fosstodon.org @EUCommission yeah, I'm a big fan of the EU ๐Ÿ™‚ I'm happy to be a citizen in an EU country and to be part of this great peace project ๐Ÿ™‚

                        Is it perfect? No, I don't think so. But it's still a wonderful thing.

                        My main wish for the EU would be for it to abandon English as a language. Having English as the main language for intercommunication just tilts the playing field in the direction of the USA and UK.

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                        @ehrt74
                        Gerne. Sprechen Sie Deutsch! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                        @RegGuy @benroyce @richlv @EUCommission

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                        • grootinside@troet.cafeG grootinside@troet.cafe

                          @benroyce @richlv @paranormal_distribution@fosstodon.org @EUCommission
                          The sad and scary part is that at the same time, they are willing to give up a lot of freedom, which they take for granted or even do not recognize as such, in order to expect their self-centered demands to be met.
                          Even if that means to support autocratic, violent systems.

                          And yes that "Karen mind" exists everywhere. ๐Ÿ˜’

                          As usual we do the same here in germany, just a bit delayed and a bit different. But same vibes... same direction...

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                          @grootinside @richlv @EUCommission

                          please, keep it together. this is a prayer not a demand

                          because the usa is lost. we are in recovery mode now, who knows if we even can with all these plutocrats and bigots

                          it would be a huge blow if germany falls to this shit as well, at least to my psyche. because i like you believe in working for good by doing better as we can, rather than just entitled shouting for perfect. and europe is the anchor of that now in the world. for me at least

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                          • phl@mastodon.socialP phl@mastodon.social

                            @ehrt74 @RegGuy @benroyce @richlv @paranormal_distribution@fosstodon.org @EUCommission Unfortunately there's no other language as widely understood across the EU as English is.
                            (and English remains an EU language because it is an official language of both Ireland and Malta)

                            But in any case, every publication happens in the official EU languages, of which there are many (and some major regional ones are woefully missing, eg. Catalan) โ€” and IIRC Parliament members typically speak in their own language.

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                            @phl @ehrt74 @RegGuy @benroyce @richlv @EUCommission the other sensible reason is that you want non-EU members to read your rules.

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @grootinside @richlv @EUCommission

                              please, keep it together. this is a prayer not a demand

                              because the usa is lost. we are in recovery mode now, who knows if we even can with all these plutocrats and bigots

                              it would be a huge blow if germany falls to this shit as well, at least to my psyche. because i like you believe in working for good by doing better as we can, rather than just entitled shouting for perfect. and europe is the anchor of that now in the world. for me at least

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                              @benroyce @richlv @EUCommission
                              We are trying.โœŠ๐Ÿผ
                              Despite the propaganda in the USA and here in germany (and elsewhere) there ARE sane movements of people everywhere.
                              In the long run we, the people, will go on as always (despite the empires) and hopefully find a way to interconnect globally more by networks like this here.
                              Giving up is no option. There is still the real problem for all of us growing. #climatechange
                              โœŠ๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ––

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                              • grootinside@troet.cafeG grootinside@troet.cafe

                                @benroyce @richlv @EUCommission
                                We are trying.โœŠ๐Ÿผ
                                Despite the propaganda in the USA and here in germany (and elsewhere) there ARE sane movements of people everywhere.
                                In the long run we, the people, will go on as always (despite the empires) and hopefully find a way to interconnect globally more by networks like this here.
                                Giving up is no option. There is still the real problem for all of us growing. #climatechange
                                โœŠ๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ––

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                                @grootinside @richlv @EUCommission ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ˜ค

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                                • jtb@toot.walesJ jtb@toot.wales

                                  @benroyce @phl @EUCommission I used to be in the EU, and I am much nearer to it than you are. And I do actually care about democracy.

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                                  @jtb Nobody has to give a single shit about anything you have to say about the EU and every single response in your quest for attention. Lookit, a huge Brexit benefit!

                                  @benroyce @phl @EUCommission

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                                  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                    Hi @jtb! The EU is a democracy and this means that you have the right to disagree with us. You can also help shape EU policies directly through tools like the European Citizensโ€™ Initiative and European Citizensโ€™ Panels.

                                    Furthermore, you are directly represented in the European Parliament, which is elected by EU citizens, while EU countries are represented in the Council and the European Council.

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                                    @EUCommission
                                    No, no jtb CANNOT help shape any EU policies anymore because they do not live in the EU nor are they EU citizens. Which means you don't have to waste your time on his attentionwhoring. Please remember, you work for us, EU citizens.
                                    @jtb

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                                    • tamarasellman@social.seattle.wa.usT tamarasellman@social.seattle.wa.us

                                      @RegGuy @benroyce @richlv @paranormal_distribution@fosstodon.org @EUCommission actually started in the 1950s with John Birch Society, Barry Goldwater, and McCarthyism.

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                                      @tamarasellman @benroyce @richlv @EUCommission No it didn't. That ignores all the good that happened in the 1960s and 1970s. What I'm talking about is the movement to undermine civil, voting, and women's rights. That started with Reagan.

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                                      • dianshuo@mstdn.ioD dianshuo@mstdn.io

                                        @phl @ehrt74 @RegGuy @benroyce @richlv @EUCommission the other sensible reason is that you want non-EU members to read your rules.

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                                        @dianshuo @phl @RegGuy @benroyce @richlv @EUCommission a part of me is going to find it very amusing when China says that from now on the international language is Mandarin.

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                                        • ehrt74@mastodon.socialE ehrt74@mastodon.social

                                          @dianshuo @phl @RegGuy @benroyce @richlv @EUCommission a part of me is going to find it very amusing when China says that from now on the international language is Mandarin.

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                                          @ehrt74 @phl @RegGuy @benroyce @richlv @EUCommission less funny when you are in APAC. Practical but comes with some strings attached.

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