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  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

    what are we even doing here man

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    You laugh but I joined an org once where because passing arrays to functions required handling references they instead used big CSV strings in 99% of cases. Drove me insane.

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    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

      what are we even doing here man

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      @foone Boy not only do I have worked with arrays, I also have extensive experience both pressing and releasing (!) keys on business workstation keyboards. Am I hired?

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      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

        what are we even doing here man

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        @foone Doesn't Lua use only dictionaries for data structures? IIRC, its "arrays" are just dictionaries indexed by integers.

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        • karpour@mstdn.socialK karpour@mstdn.social

          @foone Boy not only do I have worked with arrays, I also have extensive experience both pressing and releasing (!) keys on business workstation keyboards. Am I hired?

          ruawhitepaw@chitter.xyzR This user is from outside of this forum
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          @karpour @foone You can produce arrays of characters faster if you don't release the keys.

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          • tomf@mastodon.gamedev.placeT tomf@mastodon.gamedev.place

            @gunstick @foone (all these patents are way out of date of course DO NOT TALK ABOUT LIVE PATENTS)

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            @TomF @foone
            I came up with the code many years before IBM filed their patent

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            • h5e@tech.lgbtH h5e@tech.lgbt

              @foone but do you know Keyboard (input device)?

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              @h5e @foone Very distantly, but the details are too traumatic to elaborate any further.

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              • jsmuellerroemer@c.imJ jsmuellerroemer@c.im

                @foone I get redirected to the German site with no option to switch pack (the 404 references a non-existent dropdown menu…)

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                @JSMuellerRoemer @foone See above https://social.tchncs.de/@flxtr/116186768953309522, worked for me, need to switch via the currency selector.

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                • weirdocollector@livellosegreto.itW weirdocollector@livellosegreto.it

                  @foone Unfortunately links goes to 404 😔

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                  @weirdocollector @foone See above https://social.tchncs.de/@flxtr/116186768953309522, worked for me, need to switch via the currency selector.

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                  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                    what are we even doing here man

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                    @foone

                    well I mean... the first coding language I learned was Matlab, and it had matrices. I think even the 3D versions of these were just called matrices. Later on it had structs, which were nested matrices. And at some point I stumbled on cell arrays, which were like structs but different. Or something. Maybe 3D matrices were called "arrays."

                    Anyhoo, eventually I found my way to other languages that did have things called "arrays" (might've been PHP was the first of those.)

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                    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                      what are we even doing here man

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                      @foone

                      Arrays are a slick gateway drug.

                      You haven't lived until you've met a well endowed hashtable...

                      /s

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                      • riley@toot.catR riley@toot.cat

                        @h5e Sakurai Masahiro.

                        @foone

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                        @riley @foone wow that’s fascinating

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                        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                          Usborne released a bunch of their old 80s programming books for free a while back, and they're all just a gem:

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                          Computer and coding books from Usborne | Usborne | Be Curious

                          Usborne children's coding books for a new generation

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                          @foone The GOSUB robot from "Computer Programming in BASIC" has lived rent-free in my head for 40 years

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                          • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                            what are we even doing here man

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                            @foone

                            LOL, the most important thing to know about a particular array is if it starts at 0 or 1.

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                            Off-by-one error - Wikipedia

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                            • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

                              @foone I learnt everything I know from Computer Fun… I still have the book.

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                              @dan @foone I learned everything I now don’t know anymore from this book (which I had)

                              archive.org/details/starting-forth-leo-brodie/mode/2up

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                              • henryk@chaos.socialH henryk@chaos.social

                                @revk @foone That is one of my memories from programming as a child. I was ~10 years old. I saw the starry night screensaver in Norton Commander and wanted a similar effect in QBasic.
                                Lots of copy and paste later I had like 15 pairs of x,y coordinate variables (x1,y1,x2,y2,.…), a cycle counter that goes from 1 to 15, and a shitload of if then clauses: delete star at x1,y1, assign new coordinates, paint star, wait, delete star at x2, y2, etc. pp.
                                It was awesome, but was hard to add more stars.

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                                @henryk @revk @foone
                                I regularly encounter students using arrays, but addressing each cell individually in a for-loop. Don't blame them, I was there once myself. It was my largest breakthrough in Matlab when I realised that you can use arrays as inputs to functions 🫣🙄😁

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                                • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                  See? Page 9. Arrays.

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                                  @foone I remember this page, it's burnt into my brain

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                                  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                    See? Page 9. Arrays.

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                                    @foone I literally learned from this page. I hated DIM but was a big MID$ stan.

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