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what are we even doing here man

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  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

    if someone doesn't have experience with arrays, then they don't have enough experience with programming to hire them to program for you. they are still on page 9 of the programming book

    riley@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
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    @foone Pedant point: there have been some rather popular historic languages that eschewed arrays as we know them for "associative arrays", like Mumps, AWK, and PHP.

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    • gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.luG gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.lu

      @TomF @foone IBM got a patent on some obscure graphics method I used many years before in demo programming around 1990.
      I can't recall what it was. Maybe sprites masking with a CPU. Was something obvious

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      @gunstick @foone I vaguely recall someone like Atari having a patent on a register that shifts the entire screen left. So someone else (Sega?) made a register that shifts it right instead. It's really annoying that it goes the wrong way, but it avoided the patent.

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      • somekindofgarf@kind.socialS somekindofgarf@kind.social

        @foone now the qualifications for this job are pretty stringent, we're gonna need you to have used a keyboard before.

        riley@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
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        @somekindofgarf

        • There’s a minimum crew requirement.
        • What’s that?
        • One, I suppose.

        @foone

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        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

          what are we even doing here man

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          @foone

          when i reached 50 skills on linkedin i was told that this was the limit. (most of those proposed by others)

          So be careful what you announce as skill.

          but handling sequences in programming isn't a skill, it is elementary.

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          • h5e@tech.lgbtH h5e@tech.lgbt

            @foone but do you know Keyboard (input device)?

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            @h5e I have heard that there once genuinely was a young man from Japan who didn't know that keyboards existed, and became a proficient programmer of one of the early game consoles, possibly first-generation Famicom, by using the on-screen entry mechanism that came as a demo with some devkit.

            And then, he got his hands on a keyboard.

            @foone

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            • tomf@mastodon.gamedev.placeT tomf@mastodon.gamedev.place

              @gunstick @foone I vaguely recall someone like Atari having a patent on a register that shifts the entire screen left. So someone else (Sega?) made a register that shifts it right instead. It's really annoying that it goes the wrong way, but it avoided the patent.

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              @gunstick @foone (all these patents are way out of date of course DO NOT TALK ABOUT LIVE PATENTS)

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              • riley@toot.catR riley@toot.cat

                @h5e I have heard that there once genuinely was a young man from Japan who didn't know that keyboards existed, and became a proficient programmer of one of the early game consoles, possibly first-generation Famicom, by using the on-screen entry mechanism that came as a demo with some devkit.

                And then, he got his hands on a keyboard.

                @foone

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                @h5e Sakurai Masahiro.

                @foone

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                • jsmuellerroemer@c.imJ jsmuellerroemer@c.im

                  @foone I’m pretty sure I had that book

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                  @JSMuellerRoemer @foone same here.

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                  • mo@mastodon.mlM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #52

                    @akent keep looking forward, I hope you'll find it

                    @foone

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                    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                      what are we even doing here man

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                      You laugh but I joined an org once where because passing arrays to functions required handling references they instead used big CSV strings in 99% of cases. Drove me insane.

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                      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                        what are we even doing here man

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                        @foone Boy not only do I have worked with arrays, I also have extensive experience both pressing and releasing (!) keys on business workstation keyboards. Am I hired?

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                        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                          what are we even doing here man

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                          @foone Doesn't Lua use only dictionaries for data structures? IIRC, its "arrays" are just dictionaries indexed by integers.

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                          • karpour@mstdn.socialK karpour@mstdn.social

                            @foone Boy not only do I have worked with arrays, I also have extensive experience both pressing and releasing (!) keys on business workstation keyboards. Am I hired?

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                            @karpour @foone You can produce arrays of characters faster if you don't release the keys.

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                            • tomf@mastodon.gamedev.placeT tomf@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              @gunstick @foone (all these patents are way out of date of course DO NOT TALK ABOUT LIVE PATENTS)

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                              @TomF @foone
                              I came up with the code many years before IBM filed their patent

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                              • h5e@tech.lgbtH h5e@tech.lgbt

                                @foone but do you know Keyboard (input device)?

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                                @h5e @foone Very distantly, but the details are too traumatic to elaborate any further.

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                                • jsmuellerroemer@c.imJ jsmuellerroemer@c.im

                                  @foone I get redirected to the German site with no option to switch pack (the 404 references a non-existent dropdown menu…)

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                                  @JSMuellerRoemer @foone See above https://social.tchncs.de/@flxtr/116186768953309522, worked for me, need to switch via the currency selector.

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                                  • weirdocollector@livellosegreto.itW weirdocollector@livellosegreto.it

                                    @foone Unfortunately links goes to 404 😔

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                                    @weirdocollector @foone See above https://social.tchncs.de/@flxtr/116186768953309522, worked for me, need to switch via the currency selector.

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                                    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                      what are we even doing here man

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                                      @foone

                                      well I mean... the first coding language I learned was Matlab, and it had matrices. I think even the 3D versions of these were just called matrices. Later on it had structs, which were nested matrices. And at some point I stumbled on cell arrays, which were like structs but different. Or something. Maybe 3D matrices were called "arrays."

                                      Anyhoo, eventually I found my way to other languages that did have things called "arrays" (might've been PHP was the first of those.)

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                                      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                        what are we even doing here man

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                                        @foone

                                        Arrays are a slick gateway drug.

                                        You haven't lived until you've met a well endowed hashtable...

                                        /s

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                                        • riley@toot.catR riley@toot.cat

                                          @h5e Sakurai Masahiro.

                                          @foone

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                                          @riley @foone wow that’s fascinating

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