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what are we even doing here man

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  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

    Usborne released a bunch of their old 80s programming books for free a while back, and they're all just a gem:

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    Computer and coding books from Usborne | Usborne | Be Curious

    Usborne children's coding books for a new generation

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    @foone Unfortunately links goes to 404 😔

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    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

      Usborne released a bunch of their old 80s programming books for free a while back, and they're all just a gem:

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      Computer and coding books from Usborne | Usborne | Be Curious

      Usborne children's coding books for a new generation

      favicon

      (usborne.com)

      kirtai@tech.lgbtK This user is from outside of this forum
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      @foone
      Ooh, they have the text adventure ones

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      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

        See? Page 9. Arrays.

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        @foone 😍

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        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

          if someone doesn't have experience with arrays, then they don't have enough experience with programming to hire them to program for you. they are still on page 9 of the programming book

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          @foone Pedant point: there have been some rather popular historic languages that eschewed arrays as we know them for "associative arrays", like Mumps, AWK, and PHP.

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          • gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.luG gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.lu

            @TomF @foone IBM got a patent on some obscure graphics method I used many years before in demo programming around 1990.
            I can't recall what it was. Maybe sprites masking with a CPU. Was something obvious

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            @gunstick @foone I vaguely recall someone like Atari having a patent on a register that shifts the entire screen left. So someone else (Sega?) made a register that shifts it right instead. It's really annoying that it goes the wrong way, but it avoided the patent.

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            • somekindofgarf@kind.socialS somekindofgarf@kind.social

              @foone now the qualifications for this job are pretty stringent, we're gonna need you to have used a keyboard before.

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              @somekindofgarf

              • There’s a minimum crew requirement.
              • What’s that?
              • One, I suppose.

              @foone

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              • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                what are we even doing here man

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                @foone

                when i reached 50 skills on linkedin i was told that this was the limit. (most of those proposed by others)

                So be careful what you announce as skill.

                but handling sequences in programming isn't a skill, it is elementary.

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                • h5e@tech.lgbtH h5e@tech.lgbt

                  @foone but do you know Keyboard (input device)?

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                  @h5e I have heard that there once genuinely was a young man from Japan who didn't know that keyboards existed, and became a proficient programmer of one of the early game consoles, possibly first-generation Famicom, by using the on-screen entry mechanism that came as a demo with some devkit.

                  And then, he got his hands on a keyboard.

                  @foone

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                  • tomf@mastodon.gamedev.placeT tomf@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    @gunstick @foone I vaguely recall someone like Atari having a patent on a register that shifts the entire screen left. So someone else (Sega?) made a register that shifts it right instead. It's really annoying that it goes the wrong way, but it avoided the patent.

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                    @gunstick @foone (all these patents are way out of date of course DO NOT TALK ABOUT LIVE PATENTS)

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                    • riley@toot.catR riley@toot.cat

                      @h5e I have heard that there once genuinely was a young man from Japan who didn't know that keyboards existed, and became a proficient programmer of one of the early game consoles, possibly first-generation Famicom, by using the on-screen entry mechanism that came as a demo with some devkit.

                      And then, he got his hands on a keyboard.

                      @foone

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                      @h5e Sakurai Masahiro.

                      @foone

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                      • jsmuellerroemer@c.imJ jsmuellerroemer@c.im

                        @foone I’m pretty sure I had that book

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                        @JSMuellerRoemer @foone same here.

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                          @akent keep looking forward, I hope you'll find it

                          @foone

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                          • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                            what are we even doing here man

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                            You laugh but I joined an org once where because passing arrays to functions required handling references they instead used big CSV strings in 99% of cases. Drove me insane.

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                            • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                              what are we even doing here man

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                              @foone Boy not only do I have worked with arrays, I also have extensive experience both pressing and releasing (!) keys on business workstation keyboards. Am I hired?

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                              • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                what are we even doing here man

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                                @foone Doesn't Lua use only dictionaries for data structures? IIRC, its "arrays" are just dictionaries indexed by integers.

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                                • karpour@mstdn.socialK karpour@mstdn.social

                                  @foone Boy not only do I have worked with arrays, I also have extensive experience both pressing and releasing (!) keys on business workstation keyboards. Am I hired?

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                                  @karpour @foone You can produce arrays of characters faster if you don't release the keys.

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                                  • tomf@mastodon.gamedev.placeT tomf@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    @gunstick @foone (all these patents are way out of date of course DO NOT TALK ABOUT LIVE PATENTS)

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                                    @TomF @foone
                                    I came up with the code many years before IBM filed their patent

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                                    • h5e@tech.lgbtH h5e@tech.lgbt

                                      @foone but do you know Keyboard (input device)?

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                                      @h5e @foone Very distantly, but the details are too traumatic to elaborate any further.

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                                      • jsmuellerroemer@c.imJ jsmuellerroemer@c.im

                                        @foone I get redirected to the German site with no option to switch pack (the 404 references a non-existent dropdown menu…)

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                                        @JSMuellerRoemer @foone See above https://social.tchncs.de/@flxtr/116186768953309522, worked for me, need to switch via the currency selector.

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                                        • weirdocollector@livellosegreto.itW weirdocollector@livellosegreto.it

                                          @foone Unfortunately links goes to 404 😔

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                                          @weirdocollector @foone See above https://social.tchncs.de/@flxtr/116186768953309522, worked for me, need to switch via the currency selector.

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