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what are we even doing here man

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  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

    if someone doesn't have experience with arrays, then they don't have enough experience with programming to hire them to program for you. they are still on page 9 of the programming book

    revk@toot.me.ukR This user is from outside of this forum
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    @foone reminds me of the early 80s where we got code form teachers for educational stuff. And one guy understood subroutines by not arrays. He had one that was full of
    IF I=1 RETURN V1
    IF I=2 RETURN V2
    …
    Amazing stuff.

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    • klausman@mas.toK klausman@mas.to

      @foone What's weird is that I distincly remember page 9 (its illustrations, mostly), but I don't remember the book cover. I grew up in 80s West Germany, so maybe they were used in a different (or translated) book. Definitely a nostalgia hit 🙂

      foone@digipres.clubF This user is from outside of this forum
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      @klausman yeah, different publishers often use different covers, so I imagine the west german publisher just made their own cover

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      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

        Usborne released a bunch of their old 80s programming books for free a while back, and they're all just a gem:

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        Computer and coding books from Usborne | Usborne | Be Curious

        Usborne children's coding books for a new generation

        favicon

        (usborne.com)

        flxtr@social.tchncs.deF This user is from outside of this forum
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        #31

        @foone For non-us users: the site is guessing your country and redirects to 404 page, if guess != "us" 🙄 But it's not geo fencing. You need to pick en-us at the home page and then request the above URL again. 😬

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        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

          what are we even doing here man

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          #32

          @foone hey I know arrays! I can do big ones, small ones, multidimensional ones. I also know variables and indentation!!! Hire me!!!!!!!!

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          • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

            what are we even doing here man

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            #33

            @foone yeah, that's it - arrays - that's all I have experience with, give me a dict and I'm going to be stumped.

            No records for me, only a long list of items lol

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            • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

              if someone doesn't have experience with arrays, then they don't have enough experience with programming to hire them to program for you. they are still on page 9 of the programming book

              mellivora@im-in.spaceM This user is from outside of this forum
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              @foone was confused for a minute till I saw the full thread... lol

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              • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                if someone doesn't have experience with arrays, then they don't have enough experience with programming to hire them to program for you. they are still on page 9 of the programming book

                farhaven@mastodon.cloudF This user is from outside of this forum
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                @foone Easy for you to say. I've been making do with red-black trees all this time.

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                • farhaven@mastodon.cloudF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @petealexharris @linear @foone Or had one of those insane managers who misread something somewhere once where some problem was caused by someone misuing an array, so they banned all array use in the whole company.

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                  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                    what are we even doing here man

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                    @foone but do you know Keyboard (input device)?

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                    • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

                      @foone reminds me of the early 80s where we got code form teachers for educational stuff. And one guy understood subroutines by not arrays. He had one that was full of
                      IF I=1 RETURN V1
                      IF I=2 RETURN V2
                      …
                      Amazing stuff.

                      henryk@chaos.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #38

                      @revk @foone That is one of my memories from programming as a child. I was ~10 years old. I saw the starry night screensaver in Norton Commander and wanted a similar effect in QBasic.
                      Lots of copy and paste later I had like 15 pairs of x,y coordinate variables (x1,y1,x2,y2,.…), a cycle counter that goes from 1 to 15, and a shitload of if then clauses: delete star at x1,y1, assign new coordinates, paint star, wait, delete star at x2, y2, etc. pp.
                      It was awesome, but was hard to add more stars.

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                      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                        See? Page 9. Arrays.

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                        #39

                        @foone I’m pretty sure I had that book

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                        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                          Usborne released a bunch of their old 80s programming books for free a while back, and they're all just a gem:

                          Link Preview Image
                          Computer and coding books from Usborne | Usborne | Be Curious

                          Usborne children's coding books for a new generation

                          favicon

                          (usborne.com)

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                          @foone I get redirected to the German site with no option to switch pack (the 404 references a non-existent dropdown menu…)

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                          • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                            Usborne released a bunch of their old 80s programming books for free a while back, and they're all just a gem:

                            Link Preview Image
                            Computer and coding books from Usborne | Usborne | Be Curious

                            Usborne children's coding books for a new generation

                            favicon

                            (usborne.com)

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                            @foone Unfortunately links goes to 404 😔

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                            • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                              Usborne released a bunch of their old 80s programming books for free a while back, and they're all just a gem:

                              Link Preview Image
                              Computer and coding books from Usborne | Usborne | Be Curious

                              Usborne children's coding books for a new generation

                              favicon

                              (usborne.com)

                              kirtai@tech.lgbtK This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @foone
                              Ooh, they have the text adventure ones

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                              • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                See? Page 9. Arrays.

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                                #43

                                @foone 😍

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                                • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                  if someone doesn't have experience with arrays, then they don't have enough experience with programming to hire them to program for you. they are still on page 9 of the programming book

                                  riley@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @foone Pedant point: there have been some rather popular historic languages that eschewed arrays as we know them for "associative arrays", like Mumps, AWK, and PHP.

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                                  • gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.luG gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.lu

                                    @TomF @foone IBM got a patent on some obscure graphics method I used many years before in demo programming around 1990.
                                    I can't recall what it was. Maybe sprites masking with a CPU. Was something obvious

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                                    @gunstick @foone I vaguely recall someone like Atari having a patent on a register that shifts the entire screen left. So someone else (Sega?) made a register that shifts it right instead. It's really annoying that it goes the wrong way, but it avoided the patent.

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                                    • somekindofgarf@kind.socialS somekindofgarf@kind.social

                                      @foone now the qualifications for this job are pretty stringent, we're gonna need you to have used a keyboard before.

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                                      @somekindofgarf

                                      • There’s a minimum crew requirement.
                                      • What’s that?
                                      • One, I suppose.

                                      @foone

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                                      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                        what are we even doing here man

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                                        @foone

                                        when i reached 50 skills on linkedin i was told that this was the limit. (most of those proposed by others)

                                        So be careful what you announce as skill.

                                        but handling sequences in programming isn't a skill, it is elementary.

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                                        • h5e@tech.lgbtH h5e@tech.lgbt

                                          @foone but do you know Keyboard (input device)?

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                                          @h5e I have heard that there once genuinely was a young man from Japan who didn't know that keyboards existed, and became a proficient programmer of one of the early game consoles, possibly first-generation Famicom, by using the on-screen entry mechanism that came as a demo with some devkit.

                                          And then, he got his hands on a keyboard.

                                          @foone

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