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what are we even doing here man

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  • riley@toot.catR riley@toot.cat

    @h5e I have heard that there once genuinely was a young man from Japan who didn't know that keyboards existed, and became a proficient programmer of one of the early game consoles, possibly first-generation Famicom, by using the on-screen entry mechanism that came as a demo with some devkit.

    And then, he got his hands on a keyboard.

    @foone

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    @h5e Sakurai Masahiro.

    @foone

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    • jsmuellerroemer@c.imJ jsmuellerroemer@c.im

      @foone I’m pretty sure I had that book

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      @JSMuellerRoemer @foone same here.

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      • mo@mastodon.mlM This user is from outside of this forum
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        @akent keep looking forward, I hope you'll find it

        @foone

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        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

          what are we even doing here man

          mrwedders@social.linux.pizzaM This user is from outside of this forum
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          You laugh but I joined an org once where because passing arrays to functions required handling references they instead used big CSV strings in 99% of cases. Drove me insane.

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          • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

            what are we even doing here man

            karpour@mstdn.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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            @foone Boy not only do I have worked with arrays, I also have extensive experience both pressing and releasing (!) keys on business workstation keyboards. Am I hired?

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            • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

              what are we even doing here man

              darkling@mstdn.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @foone Doesn't Lua use only dictionaries for data structures? IIRC, its "arrays" are just dictionaries indexed by integers.

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              • karpour@mstdn.socialK karpour@mstdn.social

                @foone Boy not only do I have worked with arrays, I also have extensive experience both pressing and releasing (!) keys on business workstation keyboards. Am I hired?

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                @karpour @foone You can produce arrays of characters faster if you don't release the keys.

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                • tomf@mastodon.gamedev.placeT tomf@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  @gunstick @foone (all these patents are way out of date of course DO NOT TALK ABOUT LIVE PATENTS)

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                  @TomF @foone
                  I came up with the code many years before IBM filed their patent

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                  • h5e@tech.lgbtH h5e@tech.lgbt

                    @foone but do you know Keyboard (input device)?

                    acmeworks@social.tchncs.deA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @h5e @foone Very distantly, but the details are too traumatic to elaborate any further.

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                    • jsmuellerroemer@c.imJ jsmuellerroemer@c.im

                      @foone I get redirected to the German site with no option to switch pack (the 404 references a non-existent dropdown menu…)

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                      @JSMuellerRoemer @foone See above https://social.tchncs.de/@flxtr/116186768953309522, worked for me, need to switch via the currency selector.

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                      • weirdocollector@livellosegreto.itW weirdocollector@livellosegreto.it

                        @foone Unfortunately links goes to 404 😔

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                        @weirdocollector @foone See above https://social.tchncs.de/@flxtr/116186768953309522, worked for me, need to switch via the currency selector.

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                        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                          what are we even doing here man

                          mwt@mastodon.nzM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @foone

                          well I mean... the first coding language I learned was Matlab, and it had matrices. I think even the 3D versions of these were just called matrices. Later on it had structs, which were nested matrices. And at some point I stumbled on cell arrays, which were like structs but different. Or something. Maybe 3D matrices were called "arrays."

                          Anyhoo, eventually I found my way to other languages that did have things called "arrays" (might've been PHP was the first of those.)

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                          • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                            what are we even doing here man

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                            @foone

                            Arrays are a slick gateway drug.

                            You haven't lived until you've met a well endowed hashtable...

                            /s

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                            • riley@toot.catR riley@toot.cat

                              @h5e Sakurai Masahiro.

                              @foone

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                              @riley @foone wow that’s fascinating

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                              • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                Usborne released a bunch of their old 80s programming books for free a while back, and they're all just a gem:

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                                Usborne children's coding books for a new generation

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                                @foone The GOSUB robot from "Computer Programming in BASIC" has lived rent-free in my head for 40 years

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                                • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                  what are we even doing here man

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                                  @foone

                                  LOL, the most important thing to know about a particular array is if it starts at 0 or 1.

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                                  • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

                                    @foone I learnt everything I know from Computer Fun… I still have the book.

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                                    @dan @foone I learned everything I now don’t know anymore from this book (which I had)

                                    archive.org/details/starting-forth-leo-brodie/mode/2up

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                                    • henryk@chaos.socialH henryk@chaos.social

                                      @revk @foone That is one of my memories from programming as a child. I was ~10 years old. I saw the starry night screensaver in Norton Commander and wanted a similar effect in QBasic.
                                      Lots of copy and paste later I had like 15 pairs of x,y coordinate variables (x1,y1,x2,y2,.…), a cycle counter that goes from 1 to 15, and a shitload of if then clauses: delete star at x1,y1, assign new coordinates, paint star, wait, delete star at x2, y2, etc. pp.
                                      It was awesome, but was hard to add more stars.

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                                      @henryk @revk @foone
                                      I regularly encounter students using arrays, but addressing each cell individually in a for-loop. Don't blame them, I was there once myself. It was my largest breakthrough in Matlab when I realised that you can use arrays as inputs to functions 🫣🙄😁

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                                      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                        See? Page 9. Arrays.

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                                        @foone I remember this page, it's burnt into my brain

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                                        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                          See? Page 9. Arrays.

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                                          @foone I literally learned from this page. I hated DIM but was a big MID$ stan.

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