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what are we even doing here man

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  • farhaven@mastodon.cloudF This user is from outside of this forum
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    @petealexharris @linear @foone Or had one of those insane managers who misread something somewhere once where some problem was caused by someone misuing an array, so they banned all array use in the whole company.

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    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

      what are we even doing here man

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      h5e@tech.lgbtH This user is from outside of this forum
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      @foone but do you know Keyboard (input device)?

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      • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

        @foone reminds me of the early 80s where we got code form teachers for educational stuff. And one guy understood subroutines by not arrays. He had one that was full of
        IF I=1 RETURN V1
        IF I=2 RETURN V2
        …
        Amazing stuff.

        henryk@chaos.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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        @revk @foone That is one of my memories from programming as a child. I was ~10 years old. I saw the starry night screensaver in Norton Commander and wanted a similar effect in QBasic.
        Lots of copy and paste later I had like 15 pairs of x,y coordinate variables (x1,y1,x2,y2,.…), a cycle counter that goes from 1 to 15, and a shitload of if then clauses: delete star at x1,y1, assign new coordinates, paint star, wait, delete star at x2, y2, etc. pp.
        It was awesome, but was hard to add more stars.

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        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

          See? Page 9. Arrays.

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          jsmuellerroemer@c.imJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @foone I’m pretty sure I had that book

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          • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

            Usborne released a bunch of their old 80s programming books for free a while back, and they're all just a gem:

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            Computer and coding books from Usborne | Usborne | Be Curious

            Usborne children's coding books for a new generation

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            (usborne.com)

            jsmuellerroemer@c.imJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            @foone I get redirected to the German site with no option to switch pack (the 404 references a non-existent dropdown menu…)

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            • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

              Usborne released a bunch of their old 80s programming books for free a while back, and they're all just a gem:

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              Computer and coding books from Usborne | Usborne | Be Curious

              Usborne children's coding books for a new generation

              favicon

              (usborne.com)

              weirdocollector@livellosegreto.itW This user is from outside of this forum
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              @foone Unfortunately links goes to 404 😔

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              • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                Usborne released a bunch of their old 80s programming books for free a while back, and they're all just a gem:

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                Computer and coding books from Usborne | Usborne | Be Curious

                Usborne children's coding books for a new generation

                favicon

                (usborne.com)

                kirtai@tech.lgbtK This user is from outside of this forum
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                #42

                @foone
                Ooh, they have the text adventure ones

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                • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                  See? Page 9. Arrays.

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                  @foone 😍

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                  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                    if someone doesn't have experience with arrays, then they don't have enough experience with programming to hire them to program for you. they are still on page 9 of the programming book

                    riley@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @foone Pedant point: there have been some rather popular historic languages that eschewed arrays as we know them for "associative arrays", like Mumps, AWK, and PHP.

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                    • gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.luG gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.lu

                      @TomF @foone IBM got a patent on some obscure graphics method I used many years before in demo programming around 1990.
                      I can't recall what it was. Maybe sprites masking with a CPU. Was something obvious

                      tomf@mastodon.gamedev.placeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @gunstick @foone I vaguely recall someone like Atari having a patent on a register that shifts the entire screen left. So someone else (Sega?) made a register that shifts it right instead. It's really annoying that it goes the wrong way, but it avoided the patent.

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                      • somekindofgarf@kind.socialS somekindofgarf@kind.social

                        @foone now the qualifications for this job are pretty stringent, we're gonna need you to have used a keyboard before.

                        riley@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @somekindofgarf

                        • There’s a minimum crew requirement.
                        • What’s that?
                        • One, I suppose.

                        @foone

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                        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                          what are we even doing here man

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                          @foone

                          when i reached 50 skills on linkedin i was told that this was the limit. (most of those proposed by others)

                          So be careful what you announce as skill.

                          but handling sequences in programming isn't a skill, it is elementary.

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                          • h5e@tech.lgbtH h5e@tech.lgbt

                            @foone but do you know Keyboard (input device)?

                            riley@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @h5e I have heard that there once genuinely was a young man from Japan who didn't know that keyboards existed, and became a proficient programmer of one of the early game consoles, possibly first-generation Famicom, by using the on-screen entry mechanism that came as a demo with some devkit.

                            And then, he got his hands on a keyboard.

                            @foone

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                            • tomf@mastodon.gamedev.placeT tomf@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              @gunstick @foone I vaguely recall someone like Atari having a patent on a register that shifts the entire screen left. So someone else (Sega?) made a register that shifts it right instead. It's really annoying that it goes the wrong way, but it avoided the patent.

                              tomf@mastodon.gamedev.placeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @gunstick @foone (all these patents are way out of date of course DO NOT TALK ABOUT LIVE PATENTS)

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                              • riley@toot.catR riley@toot.cat

                                @h5e I have heard that there once genuinely was a young man from Japan who didn't know that keyboards existed, and became a proficient programmer of one of the early game consoles, possibly first-generation Famicom, by using the on-screen entry mechanism that came as a demo with some devkit.

                                And then, he got his hands on a keyboard.

                                @foone

                                riley@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @h5e Sakurai Masahiro.

                                @foone

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                                • jsmuellerroemer@c.imJ jsmuellerroemer@c.im

                                  @foone I’m pretty sure I had that book

                                  llogiq@hachyderm.ioL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @JSMuellerRoemer @foone same here.

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                                  • mo@mastodon.mlM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @akent keep looking forward, I hope you'll find it

                                    @foone

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                                    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                      what are we even doing here man

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                                      You laugh but I joined an org once where because passing arrays to functions required handling references they instead used big CSV strings in 99% of cases. Drove me insane.

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                                      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                        what are we even doing here man

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                                        @foone Boy not only do I have worked with arrays, I also have extensive experience both pressing and releasing (!) keys on business workstation keyboards. Am I hired?

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                                        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                          what are we even doing here man

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                                          @foone Doesn't Lua use only dictionaries for data structures? IIRC, its "arrays" are just dictionaries indexed by integers.

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