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Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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  • newint@todon.nlN newint@todon.nl

    @dangillmor Which problem do these self-driving vehicles solve, which issue is so pressing, that we have to dedicate development time and sacrifice existing infrastructure? We don’t need flying taxis and self driving cars. We need separate bicycle lanes, affordable and reliable public transport, clean air, etc. which benefit all, not just some tech companies.

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    @newint @dangillmor In theory a competent Jonnycab would have lighting fast senses and legal compliance, reducing meatbag driver mistakes.

    Programming it to scoff the law eats away at that like molecular acid. It's just a grift now.

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    • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

      Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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      Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

      Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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      @dangillmor
      Is it legitimate self defense if I carry a log splitter to clear the bike lane?

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      • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

        Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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        Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

        Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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        @dangillmor I really like when people burn these in the streets.

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        • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

          @dangillmor

          They just keep leaning into the "be evil" don't they?

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          @mastodonmigration @dangillmor

          Are human taxi drivers also evil for letting you out by the roadside even if there is a bike lane?

          I smell #fakeoutrage

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          • francoisprague@mastodon.socialF francoisprague@mastodon.social

            @dangillmor so autonomous driving being as uncivil as a human driver removes the need for autonomous driving.

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            @FrancoisPrague @dangillmor

            People being outraged about it here would never be outraged about the human driver picking someone up by the roadside though.

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            • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

              Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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              Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

              Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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              @dangillmor Laws for thee but not for me is, after all, the ethos of a rapidly encroaching religious techno fascism.

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              • gezza@mastodon.ieG gezza@mastodon.ie

                @dangillmor
                Is it legitimate self defense if I carry a log splitter to clear the bike lane?

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                @gezza @dangillmor

                Do you swear to never use pedestrian sidewalks with your bike?

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                • bladecoder@androiddev.socialB bladecoder@androiddev.social

                  @gogojack @dangillmor The discussion is not about autonomous cars driving over people, it's about cyclists being "doored" by autonomous cars programmed to illegally stop in bike lanes.

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                  @bladecoder @gogojack @dangillmor

                  Wouldn't it be the human passengers doing the dooring?

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                    @sgail @dangillmor Aren't these the same self-driving taxis that drove straight into water, onto train tracks, ran over children, etc?

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                    • ovoao@mastodon.socialO ovoao@mastodon.social

                      @mastodonmigration @dangillmor

                      Are human taxi drivers also evil for letting you out by the roadside even if there is a bike lane?

                      I smell #fakeoutrage

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                      @ovoao @mastodonmigration @dangillmor

                      People are begging for something to be outraged about nowadays.

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                      • fenixmaster@mastodon.socialF fenixmaster@mastodon.social

                        @dangillmor Google shouldn’t put it like that; otherwise, their cars will end up being flipped upside down by an angry member of the public wielding a shovel.

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                        @fenixmaster @dangillmor if convenience and "what I want" are the requirements for an action, then I see a LOT of damage to these cars soon

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                        • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                          Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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                          Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

                          Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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                          @dangillmor c'mon, you can't just drive in the cop-car-parking lane

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                          • ovoao@mastodon.socialO ovoao@mastodon.social

                            @bladecoder @gogojack @dangillmor

                            Wouldn't it be the human passengers doing the dooring?

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                            @ovoao Yes. The article also mentions a failing system that is supposed to warn passengers before they step out.

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                            • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                              Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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                              Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

                              Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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                              @dangillmor You know, a small rock hammer could easily fit in a jersey pocket.

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                              • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                                Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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                                Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

                                Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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                                @dangillmor
                                I'm thinking if one makes me stop because it's blocking the Bike lane, I'm going to be going around and standing in front of it for a while, while I gaze at my phone

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                                • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                                  Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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                                  Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

                                  Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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                                  @dangillmor unrelated, but I'm curious what London cabbies will think of this encroachment into their industry.
                                  Will Waymo need to pass "The Knowledge" in order to be licensed as a cab in London?

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