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Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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  • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

    Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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    Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

    Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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    @dangillmor

    This may be why rogue bicyclists carry a keychain in hand with sharp brass keys exposed and aimed riding past techbro antonymous vehicles obstructing bicycle lanes

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    • jerrej@mastodon.socialJ jerrej@mastodon.social

      @yetzt @dangillmor

      waymo - noun from the verb "to waymow", coined from "to lawn-mow", but applied to road usage. Ex.: "His ride then waymowed across the bike lane to take a legal turn on red, cannoning directly into two crossing pedestrians."

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      @jerrej @yetzt @dangillmor "If anyone is in the way, mow them down"

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      • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

        Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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        Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

        Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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        @dangillmor 👋

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        • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

          Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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          Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

          Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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          @dangillmor

          Ok, for once in my life, I'm on Waymo's side on this. You're focusing on the car. Focus instead on the people. Taxis have been stopping in travel lanes to discharge and pick up passengers ever since we have had taxis. Now we're supposed to expect taxis to NOT drop off and pick up at the curb because bike lanes are somehow different from other travel lanes? If I'm driving a taxi, I'm going to let my PEDESTRIANS out at the sidewalk. I'm not going to ask them to get out of my cab in the middle of the street.Yes, it's a dedicated bike lane, but it's not sacrosanct. Waymo isn't in the bike lane just for the hell of it. Would you like to get out of a cab and step into a the path of a biker?

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          • dianea@lgbtqia.spaceD dianea@lgbtqia.space

            @dangillmor

            This may be why rogue bicyclists carry a keychain in hand with sharp brass keys exposed and aimed riding past techbro antonymous vehicles obstructing bicycle lanes

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            @dianea @dangillmor I guess the sales numbers of baseball bats with convenient bike holders are going to skyrocket...

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            • newint@todon.nlN newint@todon.nl

              @dangillmor Which problem do these self-driving vehicles solve, which issue is so pressing, that we have to dedicate development time and sacrifice existing infrastructure? We don’t need flying taxis and self driving cars. We need separate bicycle lanes, affordable and reliable public transport, clean air, etc. which benefit all, not just some tech companies.

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              @newint @dangillmor In theory a competent Jonnycab would have lighting fast senses and legal compliance, reducing meatbag driver mistakes.

              Programming it to scoff the law eats away at that like molecular acid. It's just a grift now.

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              • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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                Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

                Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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                @dangillmor
                Is it legitimate self defense if I carry a log splitter to clear the bike lane?

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                • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                  Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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                  Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

                  Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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                  @dangillmor I really like when people burn these in the streets.

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                  • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                    @dangillmor

                    They just keep leaning into the "be evil" don't they?

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                    @mastodonmigration @dangillmor

                    Are human taxi drivers also evil for letting you out by the roadside even if there is a bike lane?

                    I smell #fakeoutrage

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                    • francoisprague@mastodon.socialF francoisprague@mastodon.social

                      @dangillmor so autonomous driving being as uncivil as a human driver removes the need for autonomous driving.

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                      @FrancoisPrague @dangillmor

                      People being outraged about it here would never be outraged about the human driver picking someone up by the roadside though.

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                      • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                        Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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                        Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

                        Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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                        @dangillmor Laws for thee but not for me is, after all, the ethos of a rapidly encroaching religious techno fascism.

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                        • gezza@mastodon.ieG gezza@mastodon.ie

                          @dangillmor
                          Is it legitimate self defense if I carry a log splitter to clear the bike lane?

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                          @gezza @dangillmor

                          Do you swear to never use pedestrian sidewalks with your bike?

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                          • bladecoder@androiddev.socialB bladecoder@androiddev.social

                            @gogojack @dangillmor The discussion is not about autonomous cars driving over people, it's about cyclists being "doored" by autonomous cars programmed to illegally stop in bike lanes.

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                            @bladecoder @gogojack @dangillmor

                            Wouldn't it be the human passengers doing the dooring?

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                              @sgail @dangillmor Aren't these the same self-driving taxis that drove straight into water, onto train tracks, ran over children, etc?

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                              • ovoao@mastodon.socialO ovoao@mastodon.social

                                @mastodonmigration @dangillmor

                                Are human taxi drivers also evil for letting you out by the roadside even if there is a bike lane?

                                I smell #fakeoutrage

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                                @ovoao @mastodonmigration @dangillmor

                                People are begging for something to be outraged about nowadays.

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                                • fenixmaster@mastodon.socialF fenixmaster@mastodon.social

                                  @dangillmor Google shouldn’t put it like that; otherwise, their cars will end up being flipped upside down by an angry member of the public wielding a shovel.

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                                  @fenixmaster @dangillmor if convenience and "what I want" are the requirements for an action, then I see a LOT of damage to these cars soon

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                                  • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                                    Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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                                    Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

                                    Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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                                    @dangillmor c'mon, you can't just drive in the cop-car-parking lane

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                                    • ovoao@mastodon.socialO ovoao@mastodon.social

                                      @bladecoder @gogojack @dangillmor

                                      Wouldn't it be the human passengers doing the dooring?

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                                      @ovoao Yes. The article also mentions a failing system that is supposed to warn passengers before they step out.

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                                      • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                                        Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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                                        Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

                                        Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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                                        @dangillmor You know, a small rock hammer could easily fit in a jersey pocket.

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                                        • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                                          Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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                                          Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

                                          Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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                                          @dangillmor
                                          I'm thinking if one makes me stop because it's blocking the Bike lane, I'm going to be going around and standing in front of it for a while, while I gaze at my phone

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