When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
@neurovagrant Not on their own, but Llm's do allow different humans to also compete for weakest link.
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
@neurovagrant The weakest link is a mediocre statistical approximation of the human.
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They haven't.@phil @neurovagrant
Most humans don't copy/paste commands from ticket titles into their shells... -
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Most humans don't copy/paste commands from ticket titles into their shells...@EndlessMason@hachyderm.io @neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org
Sorry, who decided to, and then gave these tools access to do so?
Putting a non-deterministic tool with """safeguards""" there has very predictable consequences. If not humans, who exactly is to blame for this mess?
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@EndlessMason@hachyderm.io @neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org
Sorry, who decided to, and then gave these tools access to do so?
Putting a non-deterministic tool with """safeguards""" there has very predictable consequences. If not humans, who exactly is to blame for this mess?
Cause it sure isn't a pile of numbers.@phil @neurovagrant
Oh I see. In that case we should blame the fundamental forces of the universe for kicking off formation of planets and bootstrapping abiogenesis and evolution. -
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Most humans don't copy/paste commands from ticket titles into their shells...@EndlessMason@hachyderm.io @neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org As a sidenote, I've seen things you wouldn't believe in the last few months that has me genuinely convinced that it's humans that made LLMs look bad, rather than LLMs being bad intrinsically (aside from the copyright issues, power drain, freshwater use, global warming, financial abuse, privacy issues, deals with government...).
The math models (locally hosted, fitting on gaming GPUs) can be fairly easily be made useful and helpful (a few days of effort after work) in menial tasks that can't be completed deterministically, provided basic oversight. They cost pennies, and they're private. -
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Oh I see. In that case we should blame the fundamental forces of the universe for kicking off formation of planets and bootstrapping abiogenesis and evolution.@EndlessMason@hachyderm.io @neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org
To my knowledge, the fundamental forces of the universe, just like dead matter (including LLMs), don't have agency of their own.
Humans do. -
@EndlessMason@hachyderm.io @neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org
To my knowledge, the fundamental forces of the universe, just like dead matter (including LLMs), don't have agency of their own.
Humans do.@phil @EndlessMason "guns don't kill people" hasn't been convincing for decades.
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@EndlessMason@hachyderm.io @neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org As a sidenote, I've seen things you wouldn't believe in the last few months that has me genuinely convinced that it's humans that made LLMs look bad, rather than LLMs being bad intrinsically (aside from the copyright issues, power drain, freshwater use, global warming, financial abuse, privacy issues, deals with government...).
The math models (locally hosted, fitting on gaming GPUs) can be fairly easily be made useful and helpful (a few days of effort after work) in menial tasks that can't be completed deterministically, provided basic oversight. They cost pennies, and they're private.@phil @neurovagrant
HahhahahahhahhahhahhhahhHhHahjahahhahahahhahahhahahhaHhHHHhz aside from escalating the rate at which we're rendering the hahhhha planet unliveable hahHahahjhaha fucking good point man. Oh boy -
@phil @EndlessMason "guns don't kill people" hasn't been convincing for decades.
@neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org @EndlessMason@hachyderm.io
Guns, like any tool, need to be carefully managed by any human owning/ controlling them. LLMs can do a crapload of damage, but they can't be held accountable, just like a computer can't be held accountable for what sysadmins do. -
@EndlessMason@hachyderm.io @neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org
To my knowledge, the fundamental forces of the universe, just like dead matter (including LLMs), don't have agency of their own.
Humans do.@phil @neurovagrant
I don't.I'm a stimulus-response machine. I'm governed by the laws of physics exclusively.
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@phil @neurovagrant
HahhahahahhahhahhahhhahhHhHahjahahhahahahhahahhahahhaHhHHHhz aside from escalating the rate at which we're rendering the hahhhha planet unliveable hahHahahjhaha fucking good point man. Oh boy@EndlessMason@hachyderm.io @neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org
Running Qwen3.5 on my 7900xtx eats as much power as running any video game. I have zero issue with running LLMs locally to assist with my journals/ notes. Nothing compared to a data center. -
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Running Qwen3.5 on my 7900xtx eats as much power as running any video game. I have zero issue with running LLMs locally to assist with my journals/ notes. Nothing compared to a data center.@phil @EndlessMason this has gotten a bit tedious for me, if y'all want to continue, please start a thread between yourselves/untag me, thanks
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
@neurovagrant We invented tech vulnerable to classic computer viruses, and social engineering too! Best of both worlds!
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@phil @EndlessMason this has gotten a bit tedious for me, if y'all want to continue, please start a thread between yourselves/untag me, thanks
@neurovagrant nah I'm good
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@neurovagrant nah I'm good
@EndlessMason i hear that
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
@neurovagrant i suspect we have two weak links now, great!
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
@neurovagrant To err is human, but to *really* agree things up you need a computer.
