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google is broken...

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  • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

    someone at google is still alive!

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    @liaizon
    the sad thing is that they can (and might) fix this, but the fix will be one of these two:

    1. have the model run much longer, then have another model read that output and summarize: "reasoning" (aka maximize resource burning)
    2. give the AI a traditionally-implemented "count characters in word" tool (address the symptom, aka admit defeat.

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      @liaizon
      the sad thing is that they can (and might) fix this, but the fix will be one of these two:

      1. have the model run much longer, then have another model read that output and summarize: "reasoning" (aka maximize resource burning)
      2. give the AI a traditionally-implemented "count characters in word" tool (address the symptom, aka admit defeat.

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      @s_ol it should be doing tool calls anyway for many questions. Like Google search used to do basic math and equations inline without searching.

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      • s_ol@merveilles.townS s_ol@merveilles.town

        @liaizon
        the sad thing is that they can (and might) fix this, but the fix will be one of these two:

        1. have the model run much longer, then have another model read that output and summarize: "reasoning" (aka maximize resource burning)
        2. give the AI a traditionally-implemented "count characters in word" tool (address the symptom, aka admit defeat.

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        @liaizon
        i was under the impression that other general-purpose models have solved this and would've guessed they implemented option 2 but actually chatgpt is still confidently wrong (now with sources!)

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          @liaizon
          i was under the impression that other general-purpose models have solved this and would've guessed they implemented option 2 but actually chatgpt is still confidently wrong (now with sources!)

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          @s_ol I love how all these companies are completely ruining the concept of souces and citations

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          • s_ol@merveilles.townS s_ol@merveilles.town

            @liaizon
            the sad thing is that they can (and might) fix this, but the fix will be one of these two:

            1. have the model run much longer, then have another model read that output and summarize: "reasoning" (aka maximize resource burning)
            2. give the AI a traditionally-implemented "count characters in word" tool (address the symptom, aka admit defeat.

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            @s_ol @liaizon last night when i tried exactly this, it was already using python to count chars, but only sometimes. when i asked "how many p in paraphernalia" it said 3. so it's just very random

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            • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

              @s_ol @liaizon last night when i tried exactly this, it was already using python to count chars, but only sometimes. when i asked "how many p in paraphernalia" it said 3. so it's just very random

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              @mntmn @s_ol how many pythons does it take to change a lightbulb?

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