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  • djrndm@chaos.socialD djrndm@chaos.social

    @chris @rixx

    From Mozilla's homepage: "From trustworthy tech to policies that defend your digital rights, we put you first — always."

    Do I have to explain why Opt-out / default AI doesn't defend digital rights?

    I don't want them to be absolutely Anti. In this case, I would've written "this should not exist".

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    @DJRNDM @rixx I think they host these services themselves so they probably see themselves as trustworthy. Also opt out also preserves your rights. You just have to do it proactively. But you have the right to opt out and they respect it.

    I am not defending Mozilla. IMHO the should put their efforts somewhere else. But AI is a an open strategy for them and opt out is their compromise. I can live with that though I'd prefer it to be different.

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    • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

      Firefox noooo

      #firefox #ai

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      @rixx Bad fox! *squirts spray bottle*

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      • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

        Firefox noooo

        #firefox #ai

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        @rixx@chaos.social yes the ai summarizing itself is bad but who the hell decided shaking was the best possible interaction to trigger it lol

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        • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

          Firefox noooo

          #firefox #ai

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          #34

          @rixx

          Juffo-Wup (@mndflayr@metalhead.club)

          The internet - where everything is turned into a sex thing sooner or later. Now you can wank your Firefox to spill AI summary all over the place...

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          Metalhead.club (metalhead.club)

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          • chris@mastodon.chrispelli.funC chris@mastodon.chrispelli.fun

            @rixx It's a bit stupid but you can block all AI stuff in Firefox with a single toggle. Just FYI.

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            @chris @rixx Funny, read folks reporting LLM crap was still functional in Firefox after throwing the "AI Kill Switch".

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            • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

              @MeaningfulBits @rixx

              I had a Motorola phone with "flick to turn on flashlight". That was nice. A single flick, not a vaguely defined "shake".

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              #36

              @jrdepriest @rixx it will be something different and more dystopian next time.

              "Shake to Present Papers"
              "Shake to swear loyalty"
              "Shake it or Die"

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              • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

                Firefox noooo

                #firefox #ai

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                @rixx
                How is it enabled if mozilla claims that "Enabling Shake to summarize is optional"?

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                • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

                  Firefox noooo

                  #firefox #ai

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                  @rixx 😓 *** shaking the Mozilla Foundation really hard and not in a sexual way ***

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                  • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

                    Apart from the AI thing, "shake to do X" is so fucked

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                    @rixx one of my children's phones has: Shake to turn on the phone Flashlight

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                    • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

                      Firefox noooo

                      #firefox #ai

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                      @rixx @briankrebs am I doing it right?

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                      • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

                        @MeaningfulBits @rixx

                        I had a Motorola phone with "flick to turn on flashlight". That was nice. A single flick, not a vaguely defined "shake".

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                        @jrdepriest @MeaningfulBits yesss, that was the only time in my life that I used the feature and it was so good!

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                        • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

                          Firefox noooo

                          #firefox #ai

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                          @rixx I've always thought "shake to _____" doesn't make much sense. There are too many false positives and pressing a button is quicker.

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                          • stragu@mastodon.indie.hostS stragu@mastodon.indie.host

                            @rixx feature request: shake your phone to instantly shed all AI features from all apps.
                            (Remember to shake weekly because they creep back up like a swarm of flees from hell.)

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                            @stragu @rixx

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                            • meaningfulbits@mastodon.socialM meaningfulbits@mastodon.social

                              @jrdepriest @rixx it will be something different and more dystopian next time.

                              "Shake to Present Papers"
                              "Shake to swear loyalty"
                              "Shake it or Die"

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                              @MeaningfulBits @jrdepriest @rixx

                              *Hidden Setting*

                              -Shake to bypass security settings-

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                              • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

                                @MeaningfulBits @rixx

                                I had a Motorola phone with "flick to turn on flashlight". That was nice. A single flick, not a vaguely defined "shake".

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                                @jrdepriest @MeaningfulBits @rixx It's super nice and all phones would have it but for the Motorola patent. 🤬

                                And AFAIK free "ROMs" like LineageOS are too chicken to just ignore the patent and offer it on all devices. Or even as an add-on app FFS.

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                                • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

                                  Firefox noooo

                                  #firefox #ai

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                                  @rixx AI and motion controls, two things everyone loves!

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                                  • davebebrave@mastodon.socialD davebebrave@mastodon.social

                                    @rixx I've always thought "shake to _____" doesn't make much sense. There are too many false positives and pressing a button is quicker.

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                                    @DaveBeBrave yeah, the only good use I ever saw was triggering the flashlight on Moto phones. That was rad

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                                    • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

                                      Firefox noooo

                                      #firefox #ai

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                                      @rixx @jalefkowit Waterfox FTW…

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                                      • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

                                        Firefox noooo

                                        #firefox #ai

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                                        @rixx no AI? Use @Vivaldi , it's AI free.

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                                        • reay@beige.partyR reay@beige.party

                                          @rixx @jalefkowit Waterfox FTW…

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                                          @reay @rixx You do not want to get me started regarding Waterfox.

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