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  • djrndm@chaos.socialD djrndm@chaos.social

    @chris @rixx The Point: In accordance to the way Mozilla want to be perceived, this should be Opt-IN!

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    @DJRNDM @rixx I don't think Mozilla want's to be perceived that way. They add these features for people to see and experience them and then decide if they want them or not. Mozilla probably wouldn't put in the work if it was opt in. I think some people want Mozilla to be the anti AI company but I don't think they are.

    I'm just glad that there is an easy opt out that also works for future features.

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    • chris@mastodon.chrispelli.funC chris@mastodon.chrispelli.fun

      @DJRNDM @rixx I don't think Mozilla want's to be perceived that way. They add these features for people to see and experience them and then decide if they want them or not. Mozilla probably wouldn't put in the work if it was opt in. I think some people want Mozilla to be the anti AI company but I don't think they are.

      I'm just glad that there is an easy opt out that also works for future features.

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      @chris @rixx

      From Mozilla's homepage: "From trustworthy tech to policies that defend your digital rights, we put you first — always."

      Do I have to explain why Opt-out / default AI doesn't defend digital rights?

      I don't want them to be absolutely Anti. In this case, I would've written "this should not exist".

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      • meaningfulbits@mastodon.socialM meaningfulbits@mastodon.social

        @rixx they have been trying everything for "shake to do..." First it was "take a picture" then "report an error" then something else, now this. SMDH.

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        @MeaningfulBits @rixx

        I had a Motorola phone with "flick to turn on flashlight". That was nice. A single flick, not a vaguely defined "shake".

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        • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

          Firefox noooo

          #firefox #ai

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          @rixx
          Shake your device to send a notification to Mozilla that says "Firefox, noooo..."

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          • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

            Apart from the AI thing, "shake to do X" is so fucked

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            @rixx feature request: shake your phone to instantly shed all AI features from all apps.
            (Remember to shake weekly because they creep back up like a swarm of flees from hell.)

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            • djrndm@chaos.socialD djrndm@chaos.social

              @chris @rixx

              From Mozilla's homepage: "From trustworthy tech to policies that defend your digital rights, we put you first — always."

              Do I have to explain why Opt-out / default AI doesn't defend digital rights?

              I don't want them to be absolutely Anti. In this case, I would've written "this should not exist".

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              @DJRNDM @rixx I think they host these services themselves so they probably see themselves as trustworthy. Also opt out also preserves your rights. You just have to do it proactively. But you have the right to opt out and they respect it.

              I am not defending Mozilla. IMHO the should put their efforts somewhere else. But AI is a an open strategy for them and opt out is their compromise. I can live with that though I'd prefer it to be different.

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              • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

                Firefox noooo

                #firefox #ai

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                @rixx Bad fox! *squirts spray bottle*

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                • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

                  Firefox noooo

                  #firefox #ai

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                  @rixx@chaos.social yes the ai summarizing itself is bad but who the hell decided shaking was the best possible interaction to trigger it lol

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                  • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

                    Firefox noooo

                    #firefox #ai

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                    @rixx

                    Juffo-Wup (@mndflayr@metalhead.club)

                    The internet - where everything is turned into a sex thing sooner or later. Now you can wank your Firefox to spill AI summary all over the place...

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                    • chris@mastodon.chrispelli.funC chris@mastodon.chrispelli.fun

                      @rixx It's a bit stupid but you can block all AI stuff in Firefox with a single toggle. Just FYI.

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                      @chris @rixx Funny, read folks reporting LLM crap was still functional in Firefox after throwing the "AI Kill Switch".

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                      • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

                        @MeaningfulBits @rixx

                        I had a Motorola phone with "flick to turn on flashlight". That was nice. A single flick, not a vaguely defined "shake".

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                        @jrdepriest @rixx it will be something different and more dystopian next time.

                        "Shake to Present Papers"
                        "Shake to swear loyalty"
                        "Shake it or Die"

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                        • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

                          Firefox noooo

                          #firefox #ai

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                          @rixx
                          How is it enabled if mozilla claims that "Enabling Shake to summarize is optional"?

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                          • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

                            Firefox noooo

                            #firefox #ai

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                            @rixx 😓 *** shaking the Mozilla Foundation really hard and not in a sexual way ***

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                            • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

                              Apart from the AI thing, "shake to do X" is so fucked

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                              @rixx one of my children's phones has: Shake to turn on the phone Flashlight

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                              • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

                                Firefox noooo

                                #firefox #ai

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                                @rixx @briankrebs am I doing it right?

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                                • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

                                  @MeaningfulBits @rixx

                                  I had a Motorola phone with "flick to turn on flashlight". That was nice. A single flick, not a vaguely defined "shake".

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                                  @jrdepriest @MeaningfulBits yesss, that was the only time in my life that I used the feature and it was so good!

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                                  • rixx@chaos.socialR rixx@chaos.social

                                    Firefox noooo

                                    #firefox #ai

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                                    @rixx I've always thought "shake to _____" doesn't make much sense. There are too many false positives and pressing a button is quicker.

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                                    • stragu@mastodon.indie.hostS stragu@mastodon.indie.host

                                      @rixx feature request: shake your phone to instantly shed all AI features from all apps.
                                      (Remember to shake weekly because they creep back up like a swarm of flees from hell.)

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                                      @stragu @rixx

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                                      • meaningfulbits@mastodon.socialM meaningfulbits@mastodon.social

                                        @jrdepriest @rixx it will be something different and more dystopian next time.

                                        "Shake to Present Papers"
                                        "Shake to swear loyalty"
                                        "Shake it or Die"

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                                        @MeaningfulBits @jrdepriest @rixx

                                        *Hidden Setting*

                                        -Shake to bypass security settings-

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                                        • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

                                          @MeaningfulBits @rixx

                                          I had a Motorola phone with "flick to turn on flashlight". That was nice. A single flick, not a vaguely defined "shake".

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                                          @jrdepriest @MeaningfulBits @rixx It's super nice and all phones would have it but for the Motorola patent. 🤬

                                          And AFAIK free "ROMs" like LineageOS are too chicken to just ignore the patent and offer it on all devices. Or even as an add-on app FFS.

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