Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

[disorderlyf@todon.eu]

@maxleibman @skinnylatte My guess, admittedly having no involvement with Blacksky and likely missing some technical details, is something to do with how server federating works with ActivityPub vs ATProto

[skinnylatte@hachyderm.io]

some people here are like 'i'm color blind i don't know what color anyone is'

well maybe you are the problem

'color blindness' is wilful racism

[zkat@fedi.zkat.tech]

@maxleibman @skinnylatte it did. It was called playvicious. But they got harassed out of here, too.

[linuxandyarn@hachyderm.io]

@skinnylatte See color and appreciate color. That's the way to go.

[zkat@fedi.zkat.tech]

@saltywizard @skinnylatte For one, you give people here the tools they need to moderate their own conversations. Bluesky has been doing a lot on this front, and I think that's a big reason why, even though bsky isn't perfect for Black folks either, it's definitely doing a lot better.

You also make this place generally more accessible. It might not feel like it to the average techie, but some people feel you practically need a CS degree to be on here with how complicated the experience can be.

[aetataureate@mastodon.social]

@rrb @skinnylatte don't know you dude but the first step is not to ask nonwhite people to help you learn not to alienate other nonwhite people (this is a genuine answer)

in other practical steps, please follow more Black users (and users of color in general) and think about and boost their posts. if you aren't sure the joke or whatever you want to make is going to land, if you don't know them in general, reply less. decide not to.

if racial dynamics confuse you, you should read some books too.

[sillycoelophysis@hachyderm.io]

@skinnylatte kind of an ableist way to out oneself as racist, too

[stevegis_ssg@mas.to]

@jabgoe2089

My dude, people are talking about their personal experiences. "The premise is still nonsensical" is still dismissive of their explicitly stated personal experience. This is exactly the kind of response (repeated dozens of times) that drives people away. Please try to listen.

[anders_von_hadern@meerjungfrauengrotte.de]

@skinnylatte German word is Mitläufer (translation as follower is not strong enough - the term was coined during denazification for all those who played a part in not stopping the terror or finding cheap excuses for actively enabling it).

[robertsmelser@toot.community]

@skinnylatte Yes! Louder for the people in back!

[jrose@social.belkadan.com]

@skinnylatte (This message got disconnected from its thread in my timeline and I was very confused on first glance until I got to the third sentence.)

[terribletowelie@mastodon.social]

@skinnylatte maybe they are just saying they treat all the people the same, but go ahead and inturperate it as that for everyone if that makes you feel better about yourself

[unchartedworlds@scicomm.xyz]

@jabgoe2089

What premise is nonsensical specifically?

[terribletowelie@mastodon.social]

@skinnylatte i hate all people in general and only like some individuals regardless of who or what they are or choose to be

[mivox@mivox.net]

@terribletowelie @skinnylatte Impact trumps intent. If you’re feeling defensive about this, maybe sit with that a bit.

[stefan@stefanbohacek.online]

@maxleibman Deleted my earlier response, as I wasn't sure who this question is actually addressed to.

But for the "here’s why you’re wrong" crowd:

Blackness in the Fediverse: A Conversation with Marcia X

A conversation about the #PlayVicious Mastodon instance.

Logic(s) Magazine (logicmag.io)

@zkat @skinnylatte

[rrb@infosec.exchange]

@aetataureate @skinnylatte

I was not trying to be cute. I, honestly, was not aware that this site was alienating to minorities. I was wondering in what ways it is annoying to minorities. With that, what I could do to make it less so.

No, you owe me nothing. I expect nothing from you. But, I am tired of being part of the problem.

The original post was complaining about the current state. Asking how it could be better does not seem (to me) to be counterproductive.

[aetataureate@mastodon.social]

@rrb @skinnylatte my answer was sincere and has concrete steps for you to follow. you should do it

eta: i'm realizing you're talking to me as though i am not white (i am white), i said your post was cute or a joke (i didn't), etc. no, i am giving you concrete advice of exactly what to do. my bio literally says white right at the top. maybe looking more and being more curious about other users is a good start too

[maxleibman@beige.party]

@stefan @zkat @skinnylatte The question was addressed (rhetorically) to people who disbelieve that Black users have been made uncomfortable here.