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OH: “What is it about DNS that people find so difficult?

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  • boydstephensmithjr@hachyderm.ioB boydstephensmithjr@hachyderm.io

    @mdreid

    I believe the classic saying is:

    There are only two hard problems in computer science:
    0. Cache coherency
    1. Naming things
    2. Off-by-one errors.

    But, you top-level post made me literally laugh out loud, because I could _absolutely_ imagine the type(s) of person that might say it.

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    @BoydStephenSmithJr Yes, that was the exactly the saying the original post and my follow up comment was alluding to.

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    • mdreid@mastodon.socialM mdreid@mastodon.social

      OH: “What is it about DNS that people find so difficult? It’s just cache invalidation and naming things.”

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      @mdreid

      LOL

      what's so hard about computers? it's just hardware and software. 😉

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      • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

        @mdreid

        LOL

        what's so hard about computers? it's just hardware and software. 😉

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        @paul_ipv6 I mean, it’s right there in the name: “hard”ware. 🙂

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        • mdreid@mastodon.socialM mdreid@mastodon.social

          OH: “What is it about DNS that people find so difficult? It’s just cache invalidation and naming things.”

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          @mdreid Dylan Bettie made a similar joke https://youtu.be/9CSjlZeqKOc?t=446

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          • mdreid@mastodon.socialM mdreid@mastodon.social

            OH: “What is it about DNS that people find so difficult? It’s just cache invalidation and naming things.”

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            @mdreid

            Yes. That's all! 😂🤣🤦‍♂️

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            • drewtowler@mas.toD drewtowler@mas.to

              @mdreid I'm now wondering if I've ever had an off-by-one error when working with DNS, to get the hat trick. I fear it's possible.

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              @drewtowler @mdreid I almost certainly have, one of my uni classes made us implement a basic DNS server from scratch and I definitely overflowed a buffer at some point due to off by one

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              • tarix29@tech.lgbtT tarix29@tech.lgbt

                @drewtowler @mdreid I almost certainly have, one of my uni classes made us implement a basic DNS server from scratch and I definitely overflowed a buffer at some point due to off by one

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                @tarix29 @drewtowler @mdreid
                Come on, counting to 63 can't be that hard 😇

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                • boydstephensmithjr@hachyderm.ioB boydstephensmithjr@hachyderm.io

                  @mdreid

                  I believe the classic saying is:

                  There are only two hard problems in computer science:
                  0. Cache coherency
                  1. Naming things
                  2. Off-by-one errors.

                  But, you top-level post made me literally laugh out loud, because I could _absolutely_ imagine the type(s) of person that might say it.

                  idnorton@tech.lgbtI This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @BoydStephenSmithJr @mdreid this is absolutely my standard reply to this 🙂

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                  • mdreid@mastodon.socialM mdreid@mastodon.social

                    OH: “What is it about DNS that people find so difficult? It’s just cache invalidation and naming things.”

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                    @mdreid Also off by one errors in your zone serial…

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                    • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

                      @mdreid

                      LOL

                      what's so hard about computers? it's just hardware and software. 😉

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                      @paul_ipv6 @mdreid And firmware.

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                      • geert@society.oftrolls.comG geert@society.oftrolls.com

                        @paul_ipv6 @mdreid And firmware.

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                        @geert @mdreid

                        firmware is just software that dried out a bit in the sun. 😉

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                        • drewtowler@mas.toD drewtowler@mas.to

                          @mdreid I'm now wondering if I've ever had an off-by-one error when working with DNS, to get the hat trick. I fear it's possible.

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                          @drewtowler @mdreid 1) Name compression and offset handling (all DNS software was buggy in the past about that, confusing == and && when testing specific bits) and 2) bitsquatting (either from space rays or humans)

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