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OH: “What is it about DNS that people find so difficult?

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  • mdreid@mastodon.socialM mdreid@mastodon.social

    OH: “What is it about DNS that people find so difficult? It’s just cache invalidation and naming things.”

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    @mdreid @cory And bulletproof boots for those foot guns that keep appearing in your hands.

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    • mdreid@mastodon.socialM mdreid@mastodon.social

      For the non-computer-science folks confused by this: these, along with off-by-one errors, are commonly described as the “two hardest problems in computer science”.

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      @mdreid

      I worked with Phil at Netscape.

      He was also responsible for the keg fridge in the kitchenette where our group sat…

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      • mdreid@mastodon.socialM mdreid@mastodon.social

        OH: “What is it about DNS that people find so difficult? It’s just cache invalidation and naming things.”

        drewtowler@mas.toD This user is from outside of this forum
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        @mdreid I'm now wondering if I've ever had an off-by-one error when working with DNS, to get the hat trick. I fear it's possible.

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        • drewtowler@mas.toD drewtowler@mas.to

          @mdreid I'm now wondering if I've ever had an off-by-one error when working with DNS, to get the hat trick. I fear it's possible.

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          @drewtowler If you get exactly two then that’s the hat trick right? 😉

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          • mdreid@mastodon.socialM mdreid@mastodon.social

            @drewtowler If you get exactly two then that’s the hat trick right? 😉

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            @mdreid Haha, I see what you did there.

            (I think...)

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            • mdreid@mastodon.socialM mdreid@mastodon.social

              For the non-computer-science folks confused by this: these, along with off-by-one errors, are commonly described as the “two hardest problems in computer science”.

              boydstephensmithjr@hachyderm.ioB This user is from outside of this forum
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              @mdreid

              I believe the classic saying is:

              There are only two hard problems in computer science:
              0. Cache coherency
              1. Naming things
              2. Off-by-one errors.

              But, you top-level post made me literally laugh out loud, because I could _absolutely_ imagine the type(s) of person that might say it.

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              • boydstephensmithjr@hachyderm.ioB boydstephensmithjr@hachyderm.io

                @mdreid

                I believe the classic saying is:

                There are only two hard problems in computer science:
                0. Cache coherency
                1. Naming things
                2. Off-by-one errors.

                But, you top-level post made me literally laugh out loud, because I could _absolutely_ imagine the type(s) of person that might say it.

                mdreid@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                @BoydStephenSmithJr Yes, that was the exactly the saying the original post and my follow up comment was alluding to.

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                • mdreid@mastodon.socialM mdreid@mastodon.social

                  OH: “What is it about DNS that people find so difficult? It’s just cache invalidation and naming things.”

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                  @mdreid

                  LOL

                  what's so hard about computers? it's just hardware and software. 😉

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                  • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

                    @mdreid

                    LOL

                    what's so hard about computers? it's just hardware and software. 😉

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                    #11

                    @paul_ipv6 I mean, it’s right there in the name: “hard”ware. 🙂

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                    • mdreid@mastodon.socialM mdreid@mastodon.social

                      OH: “What is it about DNS that people find so difficult? It’s just cache invalidation and naming things.”

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                      cool_day@mastodon.social
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                      @mdreid Dylan Bettie made a similar joke https://youtu.be/9CSjlZeqKOc?t=446

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                      • mdreid@mastodon.socialM mdreid@mastodon.social

                        OH: “What is it about DNS that people find so difficult? It’s just cache invalidation and naming things.”

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                        @mdreid

                        Yes. That's all! 😂🤣🤦‍♂️

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                        • drewtowler@mas.toD drewtowler@mas.to

                          @mdreid I'm now wondering if I've ever had an off-by-one error when working with DNS, to get the hat trick. I fear it's possible.

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                          @drewtowler @mdreid I almost certainly have, one of my uni classes made us implement a basic DNS server from scratch and I definitely overflowed a buffer at some point due to off by one

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                          • tarix29@tech.lgbtT tarix29@tech.lgbt

                            @drewtowler @mdreid I almost certainly have, one of my uni classes made us implement a basic DNS server from scratch and I definitely overflowed a buffer at some point due to off by one

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                            @tarix29 @drewtowler @mdreid
                            Come on, counting to 63 can't be that hard 😇

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                            • boydstephensmithjr@hachyderm.ioB boydstephensmithjr@hachyderm.io

                              @mdreid

                              I believe the classic saying is:

                              There are only two hard problems in computer science:
                              0. Cache coherency
                              1. Naming things
                              2. Off-by-one errors.

                              But, you top-level post made me literally laugh out loud, because I could _absolutely_ imagine the type(s) of person that might say it.

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                              @BoydStephenSmithJr @mdreid this is absolutely my standard reply to this 🙂

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                              • mdreid@mastodon.socialM mdreid@mastodon.social

                                OH: “What is it about DNS that people find so difficult? It’s just cache invalidation and naming things.”

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                                @mdreid Also off by one errors in your zone serial…

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                                • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

                                  @mdreid

                                  LOL

                                  what's so hard about computers? it's just hardware and software. 😉

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                                  @paul_ipv6 @mdreid And firmware.

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                                  • geert@society.oftrolls.comG geert@society.oftrolls.com

                                    @paul_ipv6 @mdreid And firmware.

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                                    @geert @mdreid

                                    firmware is just software that dried out a bit in the sun. 😉

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                                    • drewtowler@mas.toD drewtowler@mas.to

                                      @mdreid I'm now wondering if I've ever had an off-by-one error when working with DNS, to get the hat trick. I fear it's possible.

                                      pmevzek@framapiaf.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @drewtowler @mdreid 1) Name compression and offset handling (all DNS software was buggy in the past about that, confusing == and && when testing specific bits) and 2) bitsquatting (either from space rays or humans)

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