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I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

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  • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

    @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay
    > I can make shit up too and I'll do it cheaper than an AI

    No and no. Was falsifying the raw material so easy no single person could catch it and get dissertations retracted.

    And if you want to fill out 1,008 questionnaires for $100 I think I might have a gig for ya ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    #57

    @ohir @Natasha_Jay

    Well this apparently needs explaining: I was making a little joke. But you are correct that the shit I make up will be obvious. You get what you pay for, right?

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    • zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org
      @lemonlolita @Natasha_Jay unless you make the LLM yourself.. I'm tired of telling this to people.
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      #58

      @zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org @Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt
      Even if you make your own LLM it's still useless as a replacement for polling.

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      • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

        I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

        #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

        thenovemberman@bookstodon.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #59

        @Natasha_Jay ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘ further #enshittification

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        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

          I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

          #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

          hazz223@mstdn.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #60

          @Natasha_Jay what the actual F***!? This is the 2008 financial crisis all over again!! (Weird defence, but I feel is oddly equivocal here).

          Building assumptions on assumptions on assumptions until someone actually looks, and then entire scheme collapses wiping out peoples lives. How do we keep doing this!?!?
          Ugh A.I.

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          • lemonlolita@calckey.worldL lemonlolita@calckey.world

            @zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org @Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt
            Even if you make your own LLM it's still useless as a replacement for polling.

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            #61
            @lemonlolita @Natasha_Jay for polling you need people I thought to make a poll platform.
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            • rapsneezy@mastodon.socialR rapsneezy@mastodon.social

              @Natasha_Jay

              voting in a democracy is so wasteful

              much more efficient to leave to AI to decide how we might vote

              #AI #tech #democracy

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              #62

              @rapsneezy @Natasha_Jay

              At long last, we have created The Torment Nex^W^WMultivac, from the classic dystopian sci-fi cautionary tale, "Don't Invent Multi^W^W^WFranchise"

              Link Preview Image
              Franchise (short story) - Wikipedia

              favicon

              (en.wikipedia.org)

              Those who do not understand Multics are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.

              (with apologies to Alex Blechman, Isaac Asimov, and Henry Spencer)

              #tormentnexus #no2ai

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              • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

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                #63

                @Natasha_Jay This is a key plot point for the 1964 novel Simulacron-3 - using simulated populations for public opinion polling instead of needing to poll real people (which was done constantly in the novel).

                It turns out the protagonist's society was actually a simulator for higher-level entities.

                It was adapted into the 1999 movie The Thirteenth Floor.

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                • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                  I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                  #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

                  rivermel@tech.lgbtR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #64

                  @Natasha_Jay I really hope these AI agents ingest all of the silly mastodon polls.

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                  • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

                    @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay
                    > I can make shit up too and I'll do it cheaper than an AI

                    No and no. Was falsifying the raw material so easy no single person could catch it and get dissertations retracted.

                    And if you want to fill out 1,008 questionnaires for $100 I think I might have a gig for ya ๐Ÿ˜‰

                    benny@kirche.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #65

                    @ohir @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay 1008? Should not be too tough with a little python script, if the results can be made up anyway...

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                    • benny@kirche.socialB benny@kirche.social

                      @ohir @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay 1008? Should not be too tough with a little python script, if the results can be made up anyway...

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                      #66

                      @benny
                      > with a little python script
                      Nope. Video proof of protein filling it with their hand and pen, on paper ๐Ÿ˜‰

                      @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay

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                      • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                        I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                        #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

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                        #67

                        @Natasha_Jay โ€œIdioticโ€ is being polite! Modeling is already a thing. These kinds of โ€œfindings" should always be framed as such and not actual samplings. Hopefully everyone learned something here.

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                        • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

                          @benny
                          > with a little python script
                          Nope. Video proof of protein filling it with their hand and pen, on paper ๐Ÿ˜‰

                          @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay

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                          #68

                          @ohir @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay and thid silicon sampling would pass that? Where would it get the protein from?

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                          • benny@kirche.socialB benny@kirche.social

                            @ohir @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay and thid silicon sampling would pass that? Where would it get the protein from?

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                            #69

                            @benny
                            > Where would it get the protein from?
                            Thats why I said about a gig for the protein who stated that it would be fast and cheap.

                            Problem is real.

                            We need to find a way to detect the falsification of survey questionnaires. We can statistically identify the work of a dishonest surveyor, but if that person uses a "silicon sampling" bot, statistical methods will fail. That is why we are starting to record the human hand filling out the paper form, as proof that the pollster actually interviewed various people and did not just made the survey on their sofa casually talking with a bot.

                            @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay

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                            • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                              I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                              #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

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                              #70

                              @Natasha_Jay

                              You get the idea they really are trying to completely replace people

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                              • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

                                @benny
                                > Where would it get the protein from?
                                Thats why I said about a gig for the protein who stated that it would be fast and cheap.

                                Problem is real.

                                We need to find a way to detect the falsification of survey questionnaires. We can statistically identify the work of a dishonest surveyor, but if that person uses a "silicon sampling" bot, statistical methods will fail. That is why we are starting to record the human hand filling out the paper form, as proof that the pollster actually interviewed various people and did not just made the survey on their sofa casually talking with a bot.

                                @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay

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                                @ohir @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay now I get your point. Thank you.
                                Maybe we should stop doing surveys...

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                                • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                  I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                                  #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

                                  scaletheory@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #72

                                  @Natasha_Jay

                                  Silicon sampling,
                                  engagement farming,
                                  What's next, silicon disenfranchisement... extrapolation farming?

                                  Why the discombobulation of terms? Make them seems smart or deceptive?

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                                  • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                    I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                                    #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

                                    nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #73

                                    @Natasha_Jay This... is actually deathly dangerous... Literally...

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                                    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                      I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                                      #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

                                      tanyatussing@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #74

                                      @Natasha_Jay ๐Ÿ˜ณ

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                                      • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

                                        @benny
                                        > with a little python script
                                        Nope. Video proof of protein filling it with their hand and pen, on paper ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                        @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay

                                        jawarajabbi@mastodon.onlineJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #75

                                        @ohir @benny @Natasha_Jay

                                        I mean... is this expression for people as "protein" common in tech or did you just make it up? Because as a person I find the expression a little... surprising?

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                                        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                          I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                                          #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

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                                          #76

                                          @Natasha_Jay Wow, really?!? This is the stupidest idea since drinking bleach to cure COVID[1]

                                          [1] Editors note: Science says if you drink enough bleach you will no longer suffer from COVID, or a need for oxygen or food.

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