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I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

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  • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

    I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

    #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

    tsutrav@indieweb.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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    tsutrav@indieweb.social
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    #67

    @Natasha_Jay “Idiotic” is being polite! Modeling is already a thing. These kinds of “findings" should always be framed as such and not actual samplings. Hopefully everyone learned something here.

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    • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

      @benny
      > with a little python script
      Nope. Video proof of protein filling it with their hand and pen, on paper 😉

      @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay

      benny@kirche.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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      #68

      @ohir @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay and thid silicon sampling would pass that? Where would it get the protein from?

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      • benny@kirche.socialB benny@kirche.social

        @ohir @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay and thid silicon sampling would pass that? Where would it get the protein from?

        ohir@social.vivaldi.netO This user is from outside of this forum
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        #69

        @benny
        > Where would it get the protein from?
        Thats why I said about a gig for the protein who stated that it would be fast and cheap.

        Problem is real.

        We need to find a way to detect the falsification of survey questionnaires. We can statistically identify the work of a dishonest surveyor, but if that person uses a "silicon sampling" bot, statistical methods will fail. That is why we are starting to record the human hand filling out the paper form, as proof that the pollster actually interviewed various people and did not just made the survey on their sofa casually talking with a bot.

        @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay

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        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

          I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

          #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

          ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #70

          @Natasha_Jay

          You get the idea they really are trying to completely replace people

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          • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

            @benny
            > Where would it get the protein from?
            Thats why I said about a gig for the protein who stated that it would be fast and cheap.

            Problem is real.

            We need to find a way to detect the falsification of survey questionnaires. We can statistically identify the work of a dishonest surveyor, but if that person uses a "silicon sampling" bot, statistical methods will fail. That is why we are starting to record the human hand filling out the paper form, as proof that the pollster actually interviewed various people and did not just made the survey on their sofa casually talking with a bot.

            @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay

            benny@kirche.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #71

            @ohir @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay now I get your point. Thank you.
            Maybe we should stop doing surveys...

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            • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

              I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

              #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

              scaletheory@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #72

              @Natasha_Jay

              Silicon sampling,
              engagement farming,
              What's next, silicon disenfranchisement... extrapolation farming?

              Why the discombobulation of terms? Make them seems smart or deceptive?

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              • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

                nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                #73

                @Natasha_Jay This... is actually deathly dangerous... Literally...

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                • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                  I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                  #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

                  tanyatussing@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  tanyatussing@mastodon.social
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                  #74

                  @Natasha_Jay 😳

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                  • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

                    @benny
                    > with a little python script
                    Nope. Video proof of protein filling it with their hand and pen, on paper 😉

                    @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay

                    jawarajabbi@mastodon.onlineJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #75

                    @ohir @benny @Natasha_Jay

                    I mean... is this expression for people as "protein" common in tech or did you just make it up? Because as a person I find the expression a little... surprising?

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                    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                      I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                      #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

                      chuckmcmanis@chaos.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #76

                      @Natasha_Jay Wow, really?!? This is the stupidest idea since drinking bleach to cure COVID[1]

                      [1] Editors note: Science says if you drink enough bleach you will no longer suffer from COVID, or a need for oxygen or food.

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                      • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                        I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                        #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

                        rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #77

                        @Natasha_Jay I read that and got dumber.

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                        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                          I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                          #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

                          okerampa@shelter.moeO This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #78

                          @Natasha_Jay Reminds me of this Star Trek TOS episode where a war is done using computer simulation (but they however kill number of people killed in the simulation).

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                          • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                            I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                            #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

                            dvshkn@social.treehouse.systemsD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #79

                            @Natasha_Jay There are many things in the running, but this may be the most abhorrent use of LLMs I've seen so far

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                            • toddheberlein@mastodon.socialT toddheberlein@mastodon.social

                              @Natasha_Jay This is a key plot point for the 1964 novel Simulacron-3 - using simulated populations for public opinion polling instead of needing to poll real people (which was done constantly in the novel).

                              It turns out the protagonist's society was actually a simulator for higher-level entities.

                              It was adapted into the 1999 movie The Thirteenth Floor.

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                              #80

                              @toddheberlein @Natasha_Jay

                              There's also 1973 movie adaption directed by Fassbinder "Welt am Draht" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_on_a_Wire

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