I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.
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I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.
@Natasha_Jay this defies any purpose actual polling serves. Polling is quite literally with goal to get what people think at recent point in the past.
Polling already alone is incredibly hard, and internet and lack of land line phones has made even close to impossible. Anyone who has allowed such "llm generated polling" nonsenss to be published as truth should be called out to be liar.
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I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.
@Natasha_Jay Jesus fucking Christ. So... in other words, complete unadulterated bullshit posing as a survey?!?
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@Natasha_Jay this defies any purpose actual polling serves. Polling is quite literally with goal to get what people think at recent point in the past.
Polling already alone is incredibly hard, and internet and lack of land line phones has made even close to impossible. Anyone who has allowed such "llm generated polling" nonsenss to be published as truth should be called out to be liar.
Commercial polling has been struggling, but this takes the cake.@Natasha_Jay I understand llm appeal in content templating etc. but claiming that this somehow gives you any believable reference is madness.
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I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.
@Natasha_Jay OK, this is why the other day I suggested that no one needs to quote "Elon Musk says" or any of that stuff anymore. Stop interviewing these idiots, and ask their idiot-boxes to make up what they MIGHT have said. That might get them to understand that having "AI" stand in for real people is a bad idea. And if it doesn't, at least we're still only getting bullshit answers like we would if we asked the "real" people.
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I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.
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I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.
@Natasha_Jay the myriad ways people convince themselves that they are correct and not lying.
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@Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt
If you ever wondered how polling could be less useful, reliable ...@lemonlolita @Natasha_Jay unless you make the LLM yourself.. I'm tired of telling this to people. -
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Oh my Lord, I just can't with this stuff
I just asked AI to simulate me not being able to stand this stuff 8 million times to verify and it resulted in 11 and 1/2 million verifications that I can't stand this stuff. So my point is completely validated.

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@jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay
> I can make shit up too and I'll do it cheaper than an AINo and no. Was falsifying the raw material so easy no single person could catch it and get dissertations retracted.
And if you want to fill out 1,008 questionnaires for $100 I think I might have a gig for ya

Well this apparently needs explaining: I was making a little joke. But you are correct that the shit I make up will be obvious. You get what you pay for, right?
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@lemonlolita @Natasha_Jay unless you make the LLM yourself.. I'm tired of telling this to people.
@zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org @Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt
Even if you make your own LLM it's still useless as a replacement for polling. -
I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.
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I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.
@Natasha_Jay what the actual F***!? This is the 2008 financial crisis all over again!! (Weird defence, but I feel is oddly equivocal here).
Building assumptions on assumptions on assumptions until someone actually looks, and then entire scheme collapses wiping out peoples lives. How do we keep doing this!?!?
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@zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org @Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt
Even if you make your own LLM it's still useless as a replacement for polling.@lemonlolita @Natasha_Jay for polling you need people I thought to make a poll platform. -
voting in a democracy is so wasteful
much more efficient to leave to AI to decide how we might vote
At long last, we have created The Torment Nex^W^WMultivac, from the classic dystopian sci-fi cautionary tale, "Don't Invent Multi^W^W^WFranchise"
Those who do not understand Multics are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
(with apologies to Alex Blechman, Isaac Asimov, and Henry Spencer)
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I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.
@Natasha_Jay This is a key plot point for the 1964 novel Simulacron-3 - using simulated populations for public opinion polling instead of needing to poll real people (which was done constantly in the novel).
It turns out the protagonist's society was actually a simulator for higher-level entities.
It was adapted into the 1999 movie The Thirteenth Floor.
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I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.
@Natasha_Jay I really hope these AI agents ingest all of the silly mastodon polls.
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@jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay
> I can make shit up too and I'll do it cheaper than an AINo and no. Was falsifying the raw material so easy no single person could catch it and get dissertations retracted.
And if you want to fill out 1,008 questionnaires for $100 I think I might have a gig for ya

@ohir @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay 1008? Should not be too tough with a little python script, if the results can be made up anyway...
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@ohir @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay 1008? Should not be too tough with a little python script, if the results can be made up anyway...
@benny
> with a little python script
Nope. Video proof of protein filling it with their hand and pen, on paper
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I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.
@Natasha_Jay “Idiotic” is being polite! Modeling is already a thing. These kinds of “findings" should always be framed as such and not actual samplings. Hopefully everyone learned something here.
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@benny
> with a little python script
Nope. Video proof of protein filling it with their hand and pen, on paper
@ohir @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay and thid silicon sampling would pass that? Where would it get the protein from?

