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I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

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  • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

    I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

    #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

    guerillaontologist@social.coopG This user is from outside of this forum
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    @Natasha_Jay

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    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

      I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

      #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

      pizzademon@mastodon.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
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      #54

      @Natasha_Jay the myriad ways people convince themselves that they are correct and not lying.

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      • lemonlolita@calckey.worldL lemonlolita@calckey.world

        @Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt
        If you ever wondered how polling could be less useful, reliable ...

        zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @lemonlolita @Natasha_Jay unless you make the LLM yourself.. I'm tired of telling this to people.
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        • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

          @Natasha_Jay

          Oh my Lord, I just can't with this stuff

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          #56

          @Natasha_Jay

          I just asked AI to simulate me not being able to stand this stuff 8 million times to verify and it resulted in 11 and 1/2 million verifications that I can't stand this stuff. So my point is completely validated. 🤡

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          • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

            @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay
            > I can make shit up too and I'll do it cheaper than an AI

            No and no. Was falsifying the raw material so easy no single person could catch it and get dissertations retracted.

            And if you want to fill out 1,008 questionnaires for $100 I think I might have a gig for ya 😉

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            @ohir @Natasha_Jay

            Well this apparently needs explaining: I was making a little joke. But you are correct that the shit I make up will be obvious. You get what you pay for, right?

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            • zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org
              @lemonlolita @Natasha_Jay unless you make the LLM yourself.. I'm tired of telling this to people.
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              @zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org @Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt
              Even if you make your own LLM it's still useless as a replacement for polling.

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              • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

                thenovemberman@bookstodon.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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                #59

                @Natasha_Jay 👍💯👍 further #enshittification

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                • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                  I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                  #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

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                  @Natasha_Jay what the actual F***!? This is the 2008 financial crisis all over again!! (Weird defence, but I feel is oddly equivocal here).

                  Building assumptions on assumptions on assumptions until someone actually looks, and then entire scheme collapses wiping out peoples lives. How do we keep doing this!?!?
                  Ugh A.I.

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                  • lemonlolita@calckey.worldL lemonlolita@calckey.world

                    @zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org @Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt
                    Even if you make your own LLM it's still useless as a replacement for polling.

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                    #61
                    @lemonlolita @Natasha_Jay for polling you need people I thought to make a poll platform.
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                    • rapsneezy@mastodon.socialR rapsneezy@mastodon.social

                      @Natasha_Jay

                      voting in a democracy is so wasteful

                      much more efficient to leave to AI to decide how we might vote

                      #AI #tech #democracy

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                      #62

                      @rapsneezy @Natasha_Jay

                      At long last, we have created The Torment Nex^W^WMultivac, from the classic dystopian sci-fi cautionary tale, "Don't Invent Multi^W^W^WFranchise"

                      Link Preview Image
                      Franchise (short story) - Wikipedia

                      favicon

                      (en.wikipedia.org)

                      Those who do not understand Multics are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.

                      (with apologies to Alex Blechman, Isaac Asimov, and Henry Spencer)

                      #tormentnexus #no2ai

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                      • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                        I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                        #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

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                        @Natasha_Jay This is a key plot point for the 1964 novel Simulacron-3 - using simulated populations for public opinion polling instead of needing to poll real people (which was done constantly in the novel).

                        It turns out the protagonist's society was actually a simulator for higher-level entities.

                        It was adapted into the 1999 movie The Thirteenth Floor.

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                        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                          I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                          #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

                          rivermel@tech.lgbtR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @Natasha_Jay I really hope these AI agents ingest all of the silly mastodon polls.

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                          • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

                            @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay
                            > I can make shit up too and I'll do it cheaper than an AI

                            No and no. Was falsifying the raw material so easy no single person could catch it and get dissertations retracted.

                            And if you want to fill out 1,008 questionnaires for $100 I think I might have a gig for ya 😉

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                            @ohir @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay 1008? Should not be too tough with a little python script, if the results can be made up anyway...

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                            • benny@kirche.socialB benny@kirche.social

                              @ohir @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay 1008? Should not be too tough with a little python script, if the results can be made up anyway...

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                              @benny
                              > with a little python script
                              Nope. Video proof of protein filling it with their hand and pen, on paper 😉

                              @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay

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                              • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                                #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

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                                @Natasha_Jay “Idiotic” is being polite! Modeling is already a thing. These kinds of “findings" should always be framed as such and not actual samplings. Hopefully everyone learned something here.

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                                • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

                                  @benny
                                  > with a little python script
                                  Nope. Video proof of protein filling it with their hand and pen, on paper 😉

                                  @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay

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                                  @ohir @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay and thid silicon sampling would pass that? Where would it get the protein from?

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                                  • benny@kirche.socialB benny@kirche.social

                                    @ohir @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay and thid silicon sampling would pass that? Where would it get the protein from?

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                                    @benny
                                    > Where would it get the protein from?
                                    Thats why I said about a gig for the protein who stated that it would be fast and cheap.

                                    Problem is real.

                                    We need to find a way to detect the falsification of survey questionnaires. We can statistically identify the work of a dishonest surveyor, but if that person uses a "silicon sampling" bot, statistical methods will fail. That is why we are starting to record the human hand filling out the paper form, as proof that the pollster actually interviewed various people and did not just made the survey on their sofa casually talking with a bot.

                                    @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay

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                                    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                      I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                                      #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

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                                      @Natasha_Jay

                                      You get the idea they really are trying to completely replace people

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                                      • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

                                        @benny
                                        > Where would it get the protein from?
                                        Thats why I said about a gig for the protein who stated that it would be fast and cheap.

                                        Problem is real.

                                        We need to find a way to detect the falsification of survey questionnaires. We can statistically identify the work of a dishonest surveyor, but if that person uses a "silicon sampling" bot, statistical methods will fail. That is why we are starting to record the human hand filling out the paper form, as proof that the pollster actually interviewed various people and did not just made the survey on their sofa casually talking with a bot.

                                        @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay

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                                        @ohir @jawarajabbi @Natasha_Jay now I get your point. Thank you.
                                        Maybe we should stop doing surveys...

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                                        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                          I just consulted 54 trillion "people" who agree that this is idiotic.

                                          #AI #LLM #SiliconSampling

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                                          @Natasha_Jay

                                          Silicon sampling,
                                          engagement farming,
                                          What's next, silicon disenfranchisement... extrapolation farming?

                                          Why the discombobulation of terms? Make them seems smart or deceptive?

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