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  3. #Labour have sent Jonathan Hinder out on the morning media rounds.

#Labour have sent Jonathan Hinder out on the morning media rounds.

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  • jugglingwitheggs@mstdn.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    @iaruffell @kbm0

    I absolutely 💯 agree.

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      @iaruffell @kbm0

      I absolutely 💯 agree.

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      @JugglingWithEggs @iaruffell The Greens may reach the same point eventually if they are successful enough. It's not about leaning into Reform (although Labour has foolishly chosen to do that as its response). It is about working out if enough of the electoral franchise is against their agenda to form a government. And if not, what can be said to bring back voters who have been beguiled by the right (and continue to be, aided by the press and paid-for poisoning of social media).

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      • jugglingwitheggs@mstdn.socialJ jugglingwitheggs@mstdn.social

        The number of people with a ‘Very Negative’ view of what #Brexit has done for the UK are currently rising dramatically….

        This is not just a question debated in 6th form debating societies. Wake up #Starmer.

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        #14

        Andy #Burnham is going to crash and burn…

        “My view is that #Brexit has been damaging, but I also believe the last thing we should do right now is rerun those arguments.

        Britain will be stuck in a permanent rut if we’re just constantly arguing and people are pulling away from each other…

        I am not proposing that the UK considers rejoining the EU.”

        Brexit was wrong and we’re living with the consequences. But if Burnham thinks keeping his mouth shut on it will stop Reform he’s deluded.

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          @Thebratdragon

          Burnham's ascendancy to Mayor coincided with the Labour Party being carved in half by Corbyn's landslide election at the hands of the members and the traitorous rearguard response of the Blairite PLP.

          @JugglingWithEggs

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          • jugglingwitheggs@mstdn.socialJ jugglingwitheggs@mstdn.social

            @wood5y

            I do loathe the phrase ‘to deliver’ or ‘delivery’ that is now used in politics…it suggests there is an actual precise product or target that will be met, but it never comes. It’s just vague words.

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            @JugglingWithEggs

            It's just more pandering to Bizzniss

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              @Thebratdragon

              Exactly. Burnham is first and foremost a party man, which would be great if the Labour Party stood for traditional Labour policies, but totally useless while Labour continues to pander to Big Business and liberal economics.

              @JugglingWithEggs

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                Andy #Burnham is going to crash and burn…

                “My view is that #Brexit has been damaging, but I also believe the last thing we should do right now is rerun those arguments.

                Britain will be stuck in a permanent rut if we’re just constantly arguing and people are pulling away from each other…

                I am not proposing that the UK considers rejoining the EU.”

                Brexit was wrong and we’re living with the consequences. But if Burnham thinks keeping his mouth shut on it will stop Reform he’s deluded.

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                But no one is buying your incrementalism #Starmer…and no one is feeling the benefits you claim:

                “The way I see it is this: we inherited a really bad #Brexit deal that Boris Johnson has negotiated. It was a botched deal. It doesn’t work for businesses, doesn’t work for the country.

                What I’ve done in two years is to completely reset our relations with our EU partners, to already have improved on that deal, which is what I did last year.”

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                  But no one is buying your incrementalism #Starmer…and no one is feeling the benefits you claim:

                  “The way I see it is this: we inherited a really bad #Brexit deal that Boris Johnson has negotiated. It was a botched deal. It doesn’t work for businesses, doesn’t work for the country.

                  What I’ve done in two years is to completely reset our relations with our EU partners, to already have improved on that deal, which is what I did last year.”

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                  #19

                  As I’ve already said here, I’m no fan of Wes #Streeting, but staying out in the political wilderness as a country is harming us financially and in terms of safety. That has to be acknowledged.

                  I don’t think offering to rejoin the EU is the political gold it should be for Streeting.

                  But I do think he’s widening the Overton Window.

                  We will see other parties such as the #Greens, #LibDems and nationalist parties in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland benefit from his kite flying.

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                    As I’ve already said here, I’m no fan of Wes #Streeting, but staying out in the political wilderness as a country is harming us financially and in terms of safety. That has to be acknowledged.

                    I don’t think offering to rejoin the EU is the political gold it should be for Streeting.

                    But I do think he’s widening the Overton Window.

                    We will see other parties such as the #Greens, #LibDems and nationalist parties in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland benefit from his kite flying.

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                    #20

                    Hmmm…so #Burnham is just Starmerism delivered by the personality of the King of the North? Not buying it. He’s boxing himself into a corner ridiculously early.

                    “Let me say this really clearly. I support the fiscal rules. There needs to be a plan to get debt down …

                    I said you can’t ignore [the bond markets] and I never would have believed that you could. Of course you can’t. And also that you stick to fiscal rules. There’s got to be fiscal discipline.”

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                    • jugglingwitheggs@mstdn.socialJ jugglingwitheggs@mstdn.social

                      Hmmm…so #Burnham is just Starmerism delivered by the personality of the King of the North? Not buying it. He’s boxing himself into a corner ridiculously early.

                      “Let me say this really clearly. I support the fiscal rules. There needs to be a plan to get debt down …

                      I said you can’t ignore [the bond markets] and I never would have believed that you could. Of course you can’t. And also that you stick to fiscal rules. There’s got to be fiscal discipline.”

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                      @JugglingWithEggs of those fiscal rules. The one every Chancellor rewrites and then get their knickers in a twist trying to apply to their cobbled together version.

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