I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
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@cyberlyra I think a lot of people on those medications drink anyway ...
@MLE_online @cyberlyra Can confirm.
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
Not to mention the experience of going to the physical movie theatre is about as pleasant as, I don’t know, getting on an airplane these days (which is also not good).
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online
Had a tap beer at a steakhouse restaurant chain. Longhorn.
$7.95 I did not have another. I can buy a six pack at the store for the same price. wtf. -
I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online@social.afront.org Maybe the restaurants can take a cue from the cinema chains and demand a 45-day "restaurant exclusive window," during which food and alcohol companies are not allowed to sell to grocery stores? Maybe also go on a media blitz accusing everyone who shops at grocery stores of shoplifting?
'Course that isn't working too well for the cinemas, but business executives never let "it doesn't work" stop them from trying a terrible plan! -
I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online In downtown Toronto I see restaurants come and go, come and go. Another issue nobody talks about is, maybe... there are too many restaurants.
I live near the Danforth along a stretch for many blocks where there is little else besides restaurants! We're walking distance from maybe 60-75 of them! -
@kimlockhartga what's the model?
@MLE_online The whole restaurant model as a business. It doesn't really work anymore. I don't even see chains doing well these days.
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@MLE_online The whole restaurant model as a business. It doesn't really work anymore. I don't even see chains doing well these days.
@kimlockhartga they've been around as businesses for millennia, so i have a hard time imagining that no longer existing, but something about their model needs changing
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@kimlockhartga they've been around as businesses for millennia, so i have a hard time imagining that no longer existing, but something about their model needs changing
@MLE_online Agreed. I think the ultra expensive restaurant needs to go by the wayside in favor of something more reasonable. Half the time, I felt like some restaurants I worked in had high prices for people who wanted to go to places that others couldn't afford to go.
I'd like to see fewer chains, more local small businesses, that sort of thing. Bar & Grill places can be fun. Places that do one thing well, like BBQ or fried chicken, or breakfast.
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@Mungencakes @MLE_online
Thats just standard disparagement when the working class ever stands up for itself though the ages:
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@MLE_online Agreed. I think the ultra expensive restaurant needs to go by the wayside in favor of something more reasonable. Half the time, I felt like some restaurants I worked in had high prices for people who wanted to go to places that others couldn't afford to go.
I'd like to see fewer chains, more local small businesses, that sort of thing. Bar & Grill places can be fun. Places that do one thing well, like BBQ or fried chicken, or breakfast.
@kimlockhartga maybe restaurants should be more community oriented. A place where everyone knows the owner and staff and everyone knows each other. More like neighborhood establishments and less profit-making outposts
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online Also that massive study that said all the moderation wisdom was wrong. Zero was the answer
https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-alcohol-consumption-is-safe-for-our-health -
@MLE_online @gneilyo I read that in Dallas rent includes some percentage of the restaurants take. That is completely insane to me. Like why should the rent increase because you're more successful? Restaurants should put that breakdown on the bill.
@Affekt @MLE_online That’s wild. And probably more prevalent than I realize
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@kimlockhartga maybe restaurants should be more community oriented. A place where everyone knows the owner and staff and everyone knows each other. More like neighborhood establishments and less profit-making outposts
@MLE_online That sounds fantastic.
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online "Nobody's drinking, so we've gotta make drinks more expensive" — how's *that* working out?
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online Well you see, these people are inconveniencing BUSINESS. We can't have that. It's never capitalism's fault that it doesn't work. It's always whoever is weakest in the system.
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There are limits, and if I can buy two bottles of vodka from the grocery store for the price of a single cocktail, I'm going to opt to not have that cocktail most of the time
@MLE_online at some point I realized it was cheaper for me to buy ingredients at Aldi and teach myself how to cook my favorite dishes than it is to go out to eat at a restaurant - same energy.
It’s always been cheaper, I know that, but it’s rarely worth it at this point, at least for the whole family. 70 bucks to take everyone to McDonald’s!??!
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@MLE_online at some point I realized it was cheaper for me to buy ingredients at Aldi and teach myself how to cook my favorite dishes than it is to go out to eat at a restaurant - same energy.
It’s always been cheaper, I know that, but it’s rarely worth it at this point, at least for the whole family. 70 bucks to take everyone to McDonald’s!??!
@crazybutable yeah it's nuts. I haven't had McDonald's in a couple years now
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online met an old friend for dinner the other night. I haven't been a regular drinker in years, but I thought why not, I'll have a margarita.
It was $13! I didn't get the tiny one in the shot glass, but still: $13 is insane. I know we have inflation but pre-covid the cost was closer to $8. Even with inflation that should be just over $10. The drink cost as much as my actual meal.
Restaurants have no one to blame but themselves for failing to recruit the next generation of alcoholics.
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@crazybutable yeah it's nuts. I haven't had McDonald's in a couple years now
@MLE_online the sausage and cheese McMuffin is the only deal remaining (at least here in Minneapolis) at 2.49, buy one get one for a dollar. So nearly 4 bucks after taxes. Filling and tasty. Nothing is worth it after breakfast is over though.
Wendy’s has the sausage breakfast burrito, which is 2012 levels of huge for only 4.99. And the Dave’s double, just the burger for 6 and change.
Burger King is either one whopper (6 and a bit) or two whopper jrs (5.00).
Taco Bell can go fuck themselves
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@crazybutable yeah it's nuts. I haven't had McDonald's in a couple years now
@MLE_online The actual taco truck by my work is amazing, but 3.75 for one taco. So I get three and cry, and I don’t know if I am crying from how good it is, the price (remember when these were a dollar each?), or how spicy the salsa is
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