I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
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@voxdeb there's one of those "no take, only throw" memes like this
@voxdeb Here we go

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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online typically I’ll order a glass of wine with dinner, but just the one. I used to do two but once the price went waaay up, not anymore.
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they also don't bring up the fact that we are living thru a mental health crisis and massive numbers of young people are on medication that make drinking alcohol impossible.@cyberlyra @MLE_online Most young people have crappy health insurance. Once they’re done paying for the medication there’s nothing left over from their alcohol anyway.
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
The article in this wider trend that really sent me was when WSJ tried to spin people buying more rotisserie chicken, which is usually a loss leader for stores and bought as a way to get a quick meal on the table inexpensively, as "splurging."
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online Indeed, those $5 pints at the pub are now $10 pints. I'm lucky I can still afford to drink some, but it's not like it was, and likely never will be again
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online I think other than super casual restaurants, the model has outlived its heyday.
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@MLE_online I think other than super casual restaurants, the model has outlived its heyday.
@kimlockhartga what's the model?
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@cyberlyra I think a lot of people on those medications drink anyway ...
@MLE_online @cyberlyra Can confirm.
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
Not to mention the experience of going to the physical movie theatre is about as pleasant as, I don’t know, getting on an airplane these days (which is also not good).

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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
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Had a tap beer at a steakhouse restaurant chain. Longhorn.
$7.95 I did not have another. I can buy a six pack at the store for the same price. wtf. -
I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online@social.afront.org Maybe the restaurants can take a cue from the cinema chains and demand a 45-day "restaurant exclusive window," during which food and alcohol companies are not allowed to sell to grocery stores? Maybe also go on a media blitz accusing everyone who shops at grocery stores of shoplifting?
'Course that isn't working too well for the cinemas, but business executives never let "it doesn't work" stop them from trying a terrible plan! -
I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online In downtown Toronto I see restaurants come and go, come and go. Another issue nobody talks about is, maybe... there are too many restaurants.
I live near the Danforth along a stretch for many blocks where there is little else besides restaurants! We're walking distance from maybe 60-75 of them! -
@kimlockhartga what's the model?
@MLE_online The whole restaurant model as a business. It doesn't really work anymore. I don't even see chains doing well these days.
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@MLE_online The whole restaurant model as a business. It doesn't really work anymore. I don't even see chains doing well these days.
@kimlockhartga they've been around as businesses for millennia, so i have a hard time imagining that no longer existing, but something about their model needs changing
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@kimlockhartga they've been around as businesses for millennia, so i have a hard time imagining that no longer existing, but something about their model needs changing
@MLE_online Agreed. I think the ultra expensive restaurant needs to go by the wayside in favor of something more reasonable. Half the time, I felt like some restaurants I worked in had high prices for people who wanted to go to places that others couldn't afford to go.
I'd like to see fewer chains, more local small businesses, that sort of thing. Bar & Grill places can be fun. Places that do one thing well, like BBQ or fried chicken, or breakfast.
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Thats just standard disparagement when the working class ever stands up for itself though the ages:
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@MLE_online Agreed. I think the ultra expensive restaurant needs to go by the wayside in favor of something more reasonable. Half the time, I felt like some restaurants I worked in had high prices for people who wanted to go to places that others couldn't afford to go.
I'd like to see fewer chains, more local small businesses, that sort of thing. Bar & Grill places can be fun. Places that do one thing well, like BBQ or fried chicken, or breakfast.
@kimlockhartga maybe restaurants should be more community oriented. A place where everyone knows the owner and staff and everyone knows each other. More like neighborhood establishments and less profit-making outposts
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online Also that massive study that said all the moderation wisdom was wrong. Zero was the answer
https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-alcohol-consumption-is-safe-for-our-health -
@MLE_online @gneilyo I read that in Dallas rent includes some percentage of the restaurants take. That is completely insane to me. Like why should the rent increase because you're more successful? Restaurants should put that breakdown on the bill.
@Affekt @MLE_online That’s wild. And probably more prevalent than I realize
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@kimlockhartga maybe restaurants should be more community oriented. A place where everyone knows the owner and staff and everyone knows each other. More like neighborhood establishments and less profit-making outposts
@MLE_online That sounds fantastic.
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