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  3. I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

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  • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

    I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

    They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

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    torf@c.imT This user is from outside of this forum
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    @MLE_online I mean the majority of the article looks for me as being essentially about "ah how bad, we can't get our overpriced income by selling shitty poisons as we used to do for decades before, this unfair life forces us to really *change something* 😱 or, even worse, to *start actually working* 😵‍💫 ".

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    • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

      I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

      They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

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      abmurrow@hachyderm.ioA This user is from outside of this forum
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      @MLE_online This smacks of the same juvenoia that millennials slogged though with like. The paper napkin industry. The housing industry. The marriage industry. Etm.

      Headlines like to blame younger people for just making up new culture and then tying it to economic trends that the previous generational culture propped up. I mean.

      Yeah.

      Things are going to change. And honestly? The fact that folks aren't engaging in a ton of substance abuse makes me feel a little better about the world.

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      • torf@c.imT torf@c.im

        @MLE_online I mean the majority of the article looks for me as being essentially about "ah how bad, we can't get our overpriced income by selling shitty poisons as we used to do for decades before, this unfair life forces us to really *change something* 😱 or, even worse, to *start actually working* 😵‍💫 ".

        mle_online@social.afront.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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        @torf Running a restaurant or bar is a lot of work

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        • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

          I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

          They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

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          disorderlyf@todon.euD This user is from outside of this forum
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          @MLE_online For the same price I can pop a gummi and not feel like dogshit the next day

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          • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

            @mirth omg what! If I went to a thai place here, I would be looking at $25 for the meal and maybe $9 each for two beers, but, and with tip, it's like $50 maybe? About the same for a normal italian place of the sort that has candles stuck in chianti bottles on the tables

            mirth@mastodon.sdf.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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            @MLE_online Figure $20+ entree x2, some appetizers, a few drinks, tax, and tip, $100 is about where it ends up. There are definitely some less expensive options but not a lot for sit down dining.

            Edit: I realize I didn't specify but the only times I'm out for dinner are two or more people, I kind of forgot what it's like to be out on my own.

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            • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

              I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

              They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

              nytimes.com

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              misternineham@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              @MLE_online some multinational restaurant conglomerate executive is drafting a memo right now titled "stop thinking of our cocktails as 'expensive poison' and start thinking of them as "bicycles for your inhibitions'"

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              • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                @cyberlyra I think a lot of people on those medications drink anyway ...

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                @MLE_online @cyberlyra tbf a lot of the people I know who do that had a drinking problem before they started the meds

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                • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                  I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                  They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                  nytimes.com

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                  minervakoenig@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @MLE_online or that everyone is poor now

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                  • gneilyo@mastodon.onlineG gneilyo@mastodon.online

                    @MLE_online Some restaurants have started adding a “labor surcharge” to the check, often accompanied by a big explanation somewhere on the menu, which all comes across as a backhanded way to build animosity towards minimum wage hikes. Rent is also an escalating cost for restaurants but I’ve yet to see a one collect a landlord surcharge.

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                    Landlord surcharge!

                    @gneilyo @MLE_online

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                    • minervakoenig@mastodon.socialM minervakoenig@mastodon.social

                      @MLE_online or that everyone is poor now

                      mle_online@social.afront.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @minervakoenig that's the same thing

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                      • disorderlyf@todon.euD disorderlyf@todon.eu

                        @MLE_online For the same price I can pop a gummi and not feel like dogshit the next day

                        mle_online@social.afront.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @disorderlyf glad that works for you! gummies give me anxiety, and im not the only one with that issue

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                        • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                          I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                          They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                          nytimes.com

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                          donchacale@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @MLE_online
                          a generation sees the mark-up and says fuck that. good.

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                          • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                            I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                            They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                            nytimes.com

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                            alison@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @MLE_online TBH the price of drinks was why I stopped going to bars in the '80s. Even a simple shot and mix got just stupidly priced. Has to be a special occasion to buy a cocktail when out (also rare because $16 for a small salad or appetizer).

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                            • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                              I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                              They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                              nytimes.com

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                              thriftwicker@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @MLE_online Hmm. Am I just running a business with diminishing cultural relevance in an unraveling economy? No, it's the people who are wrong.

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                              • drdrowland@fediscience.orgD drdrowland@fediscience.org

                                @MLE_online @ChuckMcManis

                                i agree. i'd work 15 minutes to get four movie tickets, though

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                                @drdrowland @ChuckMcManis yes!

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                                • misternineham@mastodon.socialM misternineham@mastodon.social

                                  @MLE_online some multinational restaurant conglomerate executive is drafting a memo right now titled "stop thinking of our cocktails as 'expensive poison' and start thinking of them as "bicycles for your inhibitions'"

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                                  @misternineham I like this better than sam altman's analogy of AI being a bicycle for your brain

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                                  • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                                    I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                                    They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                                    nytimes.com

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                                    nindelofocho@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @MLE_online It’s also always so accusational as if things didnt come and go out of style all the time at minimum.

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                                    • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                                      I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                                      They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                                      nytimes.com

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                                      isocat@tiggi.esI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @MLE_online Also: articles bleating that corner stores – gosh, mom and pop themselves! – are being hurt by increased taxes and restrictions on tobacco and nicotine products.

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                                      • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                                        I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                                        They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                                        nytimes.com

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                                        donchacale@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @MLE_online
                                        now lets get on board and stop using google and amazon and facebook...

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                                        • donchacale@mastodon.socialD donchacale@mastodon.social

                                          @MLE_online
                                          now lets get on board and stop using google and amazon and facebook...

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                                          @DonChacale It's still too hard to completely stop using google. The other two are pretty doable

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