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  3. I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

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  • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

    I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

    They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

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    minervakoenig@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    @MLE_online or that everyone is poor now

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    • gneilyo@mastodon.onlineG gneilyo@mastodon.online

      @MLE_online Some restaurants have started adding a “labor surcharge” to the check, often accompanied by a big explanation somewhere on the menu, which all comes across as a backhanded way to build animosity towards minimum wage hikes. Rent is also an escalating cost for restaurants but I’ve yet to see a one collect a landlord surcharge.

      clew@ecoevo.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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      Landlord surcharge!

      @gneilyo @MLE_online

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      • minervakoenig@mastodon.socialM minervakoenig@mastodon.social

        @MLE_online or that everyone is poor now

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        @minervakoenig that's the same thing

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        • disorderlyf@todon.euD disorderlyf@todon.eu

          @MLE_online For the same price I can pop a gummi and not feel like dogshit the next day

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          @disorderlyf glad that works for you! gummies give me anxiety, and im not the only one with that issue

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          • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

            I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

            They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

            nytimes.com

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            donchacale@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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            @MLE_online
            a generation sees the mark-up and says fuck that. good.

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            • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

              I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

              They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

              nytimes.com

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              alison@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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              @MLE_online TBH the price of drinks was why I stopped going to bars in the '80s. Even a simple shot and mix got just stupidly priced. Has to be a special occasion to buy a cocktail when out (also rare because $16 for a small salad or appetizer).

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              • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                nytimes.com

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                @MLE_online Hmm. Am I just running a business with diminishing cultural relevance in an unraveling economy? No, it's the people who are wrong.

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                • drdrowland@fediscience.orgD drdrowland@fediscience.org

                  @MLE_online @ChuckMcManis

                  i agree. i'd work 15 minutes to get four movie tickets, though

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                  @drdrowland @ChuckMcManis yes!

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                  • misternineham@mastodon.socialM misternineham@mastodon.social

                    @MLE_online some multinational restaurant conglomerate executive is drafting a memo right now titled "stop thinking of our cocktails as 'expensive poison' and start thinking of them as "bicycles for your inhibitions'"

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                    @misternineham I like this better than sam altman's analogy of AI being a bicycle for your brain

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                    • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                      I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                      They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                      nytimes.com

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                      #54

                      @MLE_online It’s also always so accusational as if things didnt come and go out of style all the time at minimum.

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                      • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                        I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                        They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                        nytimes.com

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                        @MLE_online Also: articles bleating that corner stores – gosh, mom and pop themselves! – are being hurt by increased taxes and restrictions on tobacco and nicotine products.

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                        • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                          I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                          They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                          nytimes.com

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                          donchacale@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @MLE_online
                          now lets get on board and stop using google and amazon and facebook...

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                          • donchacale@mastodon.socialD donchacale@mastodon.social

                            @MLE_online
                            now lets get on board and stop using google and amazon and facebook...

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                            @DonChacale It's still too hard to completely stop using google. The other two are pretty doable

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                            • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                              I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                              They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                              nytimes.com

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                              samirparikh@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @MLE_online They do mention the increase in price, but it's towards the end of the article:

                              "Dustin Lancaster operates or is a partner in a dozen restaurants and bars in Los Angeles. He thinks that when trying to figure out Gen Z’s habits, many operators forget to consider cost. When Mr. Lancaster would go out after work in his early 20s, a whiskey and a beer were seven or eight bucks. Now, it could be pushing $20."

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                              • samirparikh@mastodon.socialS samirparikh@mastodon.social

                                @MLE_online They do mention the increase in price, but it's towards the end of the article:

                                "Dustin Lancaster operates or is a partner in a dozen restaurants and bars in Los Angeles. He thinks that when trying to figure out Gen Z’s habits, many operators forget to consider cost. When Mr. Lancaster would go out after work in his early 20s, a whiskey and a beer were seven or eight bucks. Now, it could be pushing $20."

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                                @samirparikh yea, they really buried the lede there

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                                • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                                  @DonChacale It's still too hard to completely stop using google. The other two are pretty doable

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                                  @MLE_online
                                  is it? i use brave browser. or are you saying weeding out all tentacles of google?
                                  i put a graphene os on a old pixel phone. had linux installed on 2 chromebooks....

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                                  • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                                    I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                                    They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                                    nytimes.com

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                                    ljrk@todon.euL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @MLE_online also maybe it's a good thing that people don't constantly poison themselves with a substance that's more dangerous than many "hard" drugs? I'm so sorry that your business that relevantly involves *checks notes* serving toxic drinks to almost all customers is not that profitable anymore.

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                                    • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                                      There's a burrito place near me that I really like, that I've been eating at for years. I used to go once a week or so, but since the pandemic, the price of a burrito went from $5 to $11, and that's just too much! I eat there once every few months now. It doesn't mean I don't like burritos though.

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                                      @MLE_online
                                      Is Naugles still a thing in Southern California?

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                                      • donchacale@mastodon.socialD donchacale@mastodon.social

                                        @MLE_online
                                        is it? i use brave browser. or are you saying weeding out all tentacles of google?
                                        i put a graphene os on a old pixel phone. had linux installed on 2 chromebooks....

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                                        @DonChacale it is. There's not really a good alternative to google maps, for example, and even though i use duckduckgo for my searching, it fails enough that i still have to use google for some searching. And my community college uses gmail for student email accounts. Google has its fingers in a lot of things

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                                        • ljrk@todon.euL ljrk@todon.eu

                                          @MLE_online also maybe it's a good thing that people don't constantly poison themselves with a substance that's more dangerous than many "hard" drugs? I'm so sorry that your business that relevantly involves *checks notes* serving toxic drinks to almost all customers is not that profitable anymore.

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                                          #64

                                          @ljrk No, I like drinking lol.

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