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If you have strong opinions about #Mesh networking, please let me know.

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  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

    Well the #Meshcore is *sort of* working.
    With it's new placement I can just about hear one repeater.
    I'm receiving some messages, but I guess my antenna is to puny to send any.
    My noise floor looks good (I think) and I've discovered a few nodes.
    I think I need more power and/or a bigger antenna.
    If you're on the mesh, feel free to send me a message and I'll let you know if it arrives (details above).

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    Discovered more #meshcore nodes overnight, but still only infrequently receiving messages. Will try moving the tiny antenna to the loft - although that will reduce my Bluetooth connection to it.

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    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

      Discovered more #meshcore nodes overnight, but still only infrequently receiving messages. Will try moving the tiny antenna to the loft - although that will reduce my Bluetooth connection to it.

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      @Edent I have two companion nodes and, weirdly, they don't see the same contacts as each other despite being turned on at the same times.

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      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

        Discovered more #meshcore nodes overnight, but still only infrequently receiving messages. Will try moving the tiny antenna to the loft - although that will reduce my Bluetooth connection to it.

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        @Edent Put a repeater in your attic and your companion with you downstairs 🙂

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          @falken 90° bend at the top as it loops over.

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          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

            Discovered more #meshcore nodes overnight, but still only infrequently receiving messages. Will try moving the tiny antenna to the loft - although that will reduce my Bluetooth connection to it.

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            Stuck the #meshcore in my loft. Hasn't meaningfully changed the signal strength.
            Might try some different equipment or switching to #meshtastic.

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            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

              Stuck the #meshcore in my loft. Hasn't meaningfully changed the signal strength.
              Might try some different equipment or switching to #meshtastic.

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              @Edent I live in “the hills” outside Austin, TX and meshtastic is basically worthless until I get into a city or go further west into the flatlands. I was very disappointed.

              And, not sure what the channels are like for you but the chat for me was definitely not my preferred circle of people. I’m sure that varies greatly depending on your location.

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              • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                Stuck the #meshcore in my loft. Hasn't meaningfully changed the signal strength.
                Might try some different equipment or switching to #meshtastic.

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                @Edent I can hear that poor thing screaming in agony trying to hang on.

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                • bekopharm@indieweb.socialB bekopharm@indieweb.social

                  @Edent I can hear that poor thing screaming in agony trying to hang on.

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                  @bekopharm damn straight. Electronics should be made to suffer.

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                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                    @bekopharm damn straight. Electronics should be made to suffer.

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                    @Edent 27 mice and 1 marten near you liked that too.

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                    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                      Stuck the #meshcore in my loft. Hasn't meaningfully changed the signal strength.
                      Might try some different equipment or switching to #meshtastic.

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                      @Edent better antenna could help. I’ve definitely seen a big difference between antennas. Also have you tried the medium range or narrow settings? I think narrow has really taken over as the preferred setting in a lot of places. https://analyzer.letsmesh.net/map?lat=52.82493&long=-1.27596&zoom=5

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                      • alec@perkins.pubA alec@perkins.pub

                        @Edent better antenna could help. I’ve definitely seen a big difference between antennas. Also have you tried the medium range or narrow settings? I think narrow has really taken over as the preferred setting in a lot of places. https://analyzer.letsmesh.net/map?lat=52.82493&long=-1.27596&zoom=5

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                        @alec Thanks. I'm on Narrow - as recommended by others.
                        Looks like I need a better antenna!

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                        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                          @alec Thanks. I'm on Narrow - as recommended by others.
                          Looks like I need a better antenna!

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                          @Edent I have recs for the 915 band, alas I don’t know 868. Something else to mind is the narrow setting has a pretty sharp falloff. It really needs infrastructure relatively nearby to work reliably. If you can figure out the closest repeater you might be able to orient the antenna toward it. Also outside is much more effective, but of course challenging.

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                          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                            Stuck the #meshcore in my loft. Hasn't meaningfully changed the signal strength.
                            Might try some different equipment or switching to #meshtastic.

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                            @Edent that ‘rubber duck’ vertical antenna will do better if it has a counterpoise or a ground plane to act against. A ‘rat tail’ counterpoise is just a bit of wire 1/4 wavelengths long, connected to the outer shield at the antenna base. They’re most common on handheld radios. Probably the cheapest and quickest thing to test.

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                            • m0rpk@mastodon.radioM m0rpk@mastodon.radio

                              @Edent that ‘rubber duck’ vertical antenna will do better if it has a counterpoise or a ground plane to act against. A ‘rat tail’ counterpoise is just a bit of wire 1/4 wavelengths long, connected to the outer shield at the antenna base. They’re most common on handheld radios. Probably the cheapest and quickest thing to test.

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                              @Edent For example, https://baofengtech.com/improve-the-performance-of-your-rubber-duck-with-a-rat-tail/

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                              • m0rpk@mastodon.radioM m0rpk@mastodon.radio

                                @Edent For example, https://baofengtech.com/improve-the-performance-of-your-rubber-duck-with-a-rat-tail/

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                                @m0rpk thanks, I'll investigate 😃

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                                • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                  Well the #Meshcore is *sort of* working.
                                  With it's new placement I can just about hear one repeater.
                                  I'm receiving some messages, but I guess my antenna is to puny to send any.
                                  My noise floor looks good (I think) and I've discovered a few nodes.
                                  I think I need more power and/or a bigger antenna.
                                  If you're on the mesh, feel free to send me a message and I'll let you know if it arrives (details above).

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                                  @Edent I'm just idly looking at meshcore. How are you getting access to the noise floor? Any ideas if it's an Android-only feature?

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                                    @Edent I'm just idly looking at meshcore. How are you getting access to the noise floor? Any ideas if it's an Android-only feature?

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                                    @jackchallen it is on the Android app. Don't know about anything else.

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                                    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                      @jwildeboer Yup - has been on for 24 hours. Only seeing that repeater directly.

                                      My pings go unanswered and my messages to the test channels aren't delivered.

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                                      @Edent
                                      AFAIU you run it as companion, right?

                                      To overcome the loneliness (we have all been there), flash this one as "repeater", let it send some adverts once in a while and "Share -> Upload to Internet Map" with roughly your coordinates, and then wait.

                                      (You might need a 2nd board as "companion" to do that admin stuff, the cheapest naked board is enough).

                                      There *are* others like you, who *will* then see and try to close the gap to your repeater, just like you.

                                      Maybe some social media noise in your area helps.

                                      In the meantime, look up your area in https://map.meshcore.dev and drive around, to check reachability. Maybe you know friends and family in-between where you could set up another (yay, 🤣) repeater.

                                      Good luck.
                                      It's pioneering work.
                                      There are not many such opportunities today.

                                      @jwildeboer

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                                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                        Stuck the #meshcore in my loft. Hasn't meaningfully changed the signal strength.
                                        Might try some different equipment or switching to #meshtastic.

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                                        @Edent If you look back through @nullagent 's past history, meshtastic has been shown to be very flawed.

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                                        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                          Stuck the #meshcore in my loft. Hasn't meaningfully changed the signal strength.
                                          Might try some different equipment or switching to #meshtastic.

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                                          @Edent that antenna is likely part of your issue, and that it's touching the roof. if you can't get a better antenna right now try moving it into the open space to the right of this image.

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