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  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

    Stuck the #meshcore in my loft. Hasn't meaningfully changed the signal strength.
    Might try some different equipment or switching to #meshtastic.

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    @Edent I can hear that poor thing screaming in agony trying to hang on.

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    • bekopharm@indieweb.socialB bekopharm@indieweb.social

      @Edent I can hear that poor thing screaming in agony trying to hang on.

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      @bekopharm damn straight. Electronics should be made to suffer.

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      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

        @bekopharm damn straight. Electronics should be made to suffer.

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        @Edent 27 mice and 1 marten near you liked that too.

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        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

          Stuck the #meshcore in my loft. Hasn't meaningfully changed the signal strength.
          Might try some different equipment or switching to #meshtastic.

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          @Edent better antenna could help. I’ve definitely seen a big difference between antennas. Also have you tried the medium range or narrow settings? I think narrow has really taken over as the preferred setting in a lot of places. https://analyzer.letsmesh.net/map?lat=52.82493&long=-1.27596&zoom=5

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          • alec@perkins.pubA alec@perkins.pub

            @Edent better antenna could help. I’ve definitely seen a big difference between antennas. Also have you tried the medium range or narrow settings? I think narrow has really taken over as the preferred setting in a lot of places. https://analyzer.letsmesh.net/map?lat=52.82493&long=-1.27596&zoom=5

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            @alec Thanks. I'm on Narrow - as recommended by others.
            Looks like I need a better antenna!

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            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

              @alec Thanks. I'm on Narrow - as recommended by others.
              Looks like I need a better antenna!

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              @Edent I have recs for the 915 band, alas I don’t know 868. Something else to mind is the narrow setting has a pretty sharp falloff. It really needs infrastructure relatively nearby to work reliably. If you can figure out the closest repeater you might be able to orient the antenna toward it. Also outside is much more effective, but of course challenging.

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              • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                Stuck the #meshcore in my loft. Hasn't meaningfully changed the signal strength.
                Might try some different equipment or switching to #meshtastic.

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                @Edent that ‘rubber duck’ vertical antenna will do better if it has a counterpoise or a ground plane to act against. A ‘rat tail’ counterpoise is just a bit of wire 1/4 wavelengths long, connected to the outer shield at the antenna base. They’re most common on handheld radios. Probably the cheapest and quickest thing to test.

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                • m0rpk@mastodon.radioM m0rpk@mastodon.radio

                  @Edent that ‘rubber duck’ vertical antenna will do better if it has a counterpoise or a ground plane to act against. A ‘rat tail’ counterpoise is just a bit of wire 1/4 wavelengths long, connected to the outer shield at the antenna base. They’re most common on handheld radios. Probably the cheapest and quickest thing to test.

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                  @Edent For example, https://baofengtech.com/improve-the-performance-of-your-rubber-duck-with-a-rat-tail/

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                  • m0rpk@mastodon.radioM m0rpk@mastodon.radio

                    @Edent For example, https://baofengtech.com/improve-the-performance-of-your-rubber-duck-with-a-rat-tail/

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                    @m0rpk thanks, I'll investigate 😃

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                    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                      Well the #Meshcore is *sort of* working.
                      With it's new placement I can just about hear one repeater.
                      I'm receiving some messages, but I guess my antenna is to puny to send any.
                      My noise floor looks good (I think) and I've discovered a few nodes.
                      I think I need more power and/or a bigger antenna.
                      If you're on the mesh, feel free to send me a message and I'll let you know if it arrives (details above).

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                      @Edent I'm just idly looking at meshcore. How are you getting access to the noise floor? Any ideas if it's an Android-only feature?

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                      • J jackchallen@mas.to

                        @Edent I'm just idly looking at meshcore. How are you getting access to the noise floor? Any ideas if it's an Android-only feature?

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                        @jackchallen it is on the Android app. Don't know about anything else.

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                        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                          @jwildeboer Yup - has been on for 24 hours. Only seeing that repeater directly.

                          My pings go unanswered and my messages to the test channels aren't delivered.

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                          @Edent
                          AFAIU you run it as companion, right?

                          To overcome the loneliness (we have all been there), flash this one as "repeater", let it send some adverts once in a while and "Share -> Upload to Internet Map" with roughly your coordinates, and then wait.

                          (You might need a 2nd board as "companion" to do that admin stuff, the cheapest naked board is enough).

                          There *are* others like you, who *will* then see and try to close the gap to your repeater, just like you.

                          Maybe some social media noise in your area helps.

                          In the meantime, look up your area in https://map.meshcore.dev and drive around, to check reachability. Maybe you know friends and family in-between where you could set up another (yay, 🤣) repeater.

                          Good luck.
                          It's pioneering work.
                          There are not many such opportunities today.

                          @jwildeboer

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                          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                            Stuck the #meshcore in my loft. Hasn't meaningfully changed the signal strength.
                            Might try some different equipment or switching to #meshtastic.

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                            @Edent If you look back through @nullagent 's past history, meshtastic has been shown to be very flawed.

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                            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                              Stuck the #meshcore in my loft. Hasn't meaningfully changed the signal strength.
                              Might try some different equipment or switching to #meshtastic.

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                              @Edent that antenna is likely part of your issue, and that it's touching the roof. if you can't get a better antenna right now try moving it into the open space to the right of this image.

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                              • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                Stuck the #meshcore in my loft. Hasn't meaningfully changed the signal strength.
                                Might try some different equipment or switching to #meshtastic.

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                                On the advice of several people, I stuck the antenna at the highest part of my loft, pointing down so it wasn't in contact with the roof.
                                Signal strength improved - but still poor.
                                Still can't actually send messages to the nearest #Meshcore repeater.

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                                • enot@masto.hackers.townE enot@masto.hackers.town

                                  @Edent that antenna is likely part of your issue, and that it's touching the roof. if you can't get a better antenna right now try moving it into the open space to the right of this image.

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                                  @enot Ah, see my latest post. It improved the signal strength, but not enough.

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                                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                    On the advice of several people, I stuck the antenna at the highest part of my loft, pointing down so it wasn't in contact with the roof.
                                    Signal strength improved - but still poor.
                                    Still can't actually send messages to the nearest #Meshcore repeater.

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                                    @Edent Have you already tried it with the antenna standing or hanging upright?

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                                    • herrgruen@mastodon.socialH herrgruen@mastodon.social

                                      @Edent Have you already tried it with the antenna standing or hanging upright?

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                                      @herrgruen yes. See previous post.

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                                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                        OK my #Meshcore friends, what am I doing wrong?
                                        Board is on the 3rd floor (over 6m above ground height.
                                        Powered on, connected via Bluetooth, by a window.
                                        Set to UK long range.
                                        Been up for about 30 minutes and hasn't discovered any neighbours.
                                        I know there are a couple of repeaters near-ish.
                                        Just a case of wait and hope? Stick it in the loft? Increase power?
                                        Any help and speculation welcomed 😄

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                                        @Edent@mastodon.social
                                        UK long? I thought meshcore uses uk narrow.
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