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  • dragon@toast.dragon2611.netD dragon@toast.dragon2611.net

    @tinheadned @Edent I couldn't find anything on Meshtastic or Meshcore when I last tried it, but I was indoors with a piddly little antenna.

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    @Dragon I mean I also don't need another hobby so it's probably for the best. The bit that puts me off amateur radio is talking to *other* grumpy old white guys

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    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

      Aha! I had to unbend the antenna ๐Ÿ˜
      Now receiving #Meshcore messages. Don't know if any of mine are being seen though.

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      Well the #Meshcore is *sort of* working.
      With it's new placement I can just about hear one repeater.
      I'm receiving some messages, but I guess my antenna is to puny to send any.
      My noise floor looks good (I think) and I've discovered a few nodes.
      I think I need more power and/or a bigger antenna.
      If you're on the mesh, feel free to send me a message and I'll let you know if it arrives (details above).

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      henryk@chaos.socialH dan@mastodon.durrans.comD jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ psfshr@mastodon.me.ukP edent@mastodon.socialE 6 Replies Last reply
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      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

        Well the #Meshcore is *sort of* working.
        With it's new placement I can just about hear one repeater.
        I'm receiving some messages, but I guess my antenna is to puny to send any.
        My noise floor looks good (I think) and I've discovered a few nodes.
        I think I need more power and/or a bigger antenna.
        If you're on the mesh, feel free to send me a message and I'll let you know if it arrives (details above).

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        @Edent Wait, this is without Internet links in between? That would be fantastical coverage.
        My experience here in Berlin (with Meshtastic, though) is that I can't get to a node 4 subway stations (2.5km) from here.

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        • henryk@chaos.socialH henryk@chaos.social

          @Edent Wait, this is without Internet links in between? That would be fantastical coverage.
          My experience here in Berlin (with Meshtastic, though) is that I can't get to a node 4 subway stations (2.5km) from here.

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          @henryk I can only directly hear one node - about 4km away.

          All the others have been seen via the mesh.

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          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

            Well the #Meshcore is *sort of* working.
            With it's new placement I can just about hear one repeater.
            I'm receiving some messages, but I guess my antenna is to puny to send any.
            My noise floor looks good (I think) and I've discovered a few nodes.
            I think I need more power and/or a bigger antenna.
            If you're on the mesh, feel free to send me a message and I'll let you know if it arrives (details above).

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            @Edent Iโ€™ve sent a message but the chance of it making it to you from Bristol is relatively slim I think!

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            • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

              @Edent Iโ€™ve sent a message but the chance of it making it to you from Bristol is relatively slim I think!

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              @dan ta! Nothing yet ๐Ÿ’”

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              • henryk@chaos.socialH henryk@chaos.social

                @Edent Wait, this is without Internet links in between? That would be fantastical coverage.
                My experience here in Berlin (with Meshtastic, though) is that I can't get to a node 4 subway stations (2.5km) from here.

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                @henryk @Edent MeshCore is radio only, unlike Meshtastic that can propagate via the internet to an extent.

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                • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                  @dan ta! Nothing yet ๐Ÿ’”

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                  @Edent Iโ€™ve seen messages from Yorkshire and Cheshire before now. There are some strong north/ south links heading along the M5 and M6.

                  The hams use directional antennas to prioritise distance between the cities.

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                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                    Well the #Meshcore is *sort of* working.
                    With it's new placement I can just about hear one repeater.
                    I'm receiving some messages, but I guess my antenna is to puny to send any.
                    My noise floor looks good (I think) and I've discovered a few nodes.
                    I think I need more power and/or a bigger antenna.
                    If you're on the mesh, feel free to send me a message and I'll let you know if it arrives (details above).

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                    #65

                    @Edent Most repeaters send adverts maybe once every 12 or 24 hours. So let it sit a few days for the contact list to fill. You should join the test and ping channel and send a ping to see what replies you get back. That should tell you more about who actually sees you.

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                    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                      @Edent Most repeaters send adverts maybe once every 12 or 24 hours. So let it sit a few days for the contact list to fill. You should join the test and ping channel and send a ping to see what replies you get back. That should tell you more about who actually sees you.

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                      @jwildeboer Yup - has been on for 24 hours. Only seeing that repeater directly.

                      My pings go unanswered and my messages to the test channels aren't delivered.

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                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                        @jwildeboer Yup - has been on for 24 hours. Only seeing that repeater directly.

                        My pings go unanswered and my messages to the test channels aren't delivered.

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                        @Edent Then my best guess is that the one repeater you can connect to is operated by a HAM operator who is allowed to send with higher power. Or has a better antenna with higher gain. One of those will be the reason your packets won't make it ๐Ÿ˜ž

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                        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                          Well the #Meshcore is *sort of* working.
                          With it's new placement I can just about hear one repeater.
                          I'm receiving some messages, but I guess my antenna is to puny to send any.
                          My noise floor looks good (I think) and I've discovered a few nodes.
                          I think I need more power and/or a bigger antenna.
                          If you're on the mesh, feel free to send me a message and I'll let you know if it arrives (details above).

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                          @Edent I had to get a repeater in the attic before I got any decent reliable connection.

                          With radio, height appears to be key

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                          • psfshr@mastodon.me.ukP psfshr@mastodon.me.uk

                            @Edent I had to get a repeater in the attic before I got any decent reliable connection.

                            With radio, height appears to be key

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                            @psfshr I'm on the 3rd floor, which I thought would help.

                            I do wonder if the solar panels on the roof might block the signal if I put a repeater up there.

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                            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                              OK my #Meshcore friends, what am I doing wrong?
                              Board is on the 3rd floor (over 6m above ground height.
                              Powered on, connected via Bluetooth, by a window.
                              Set to UK long range.
                              Been up for about 30 minutes and hasn't discovered any neighbours.
                              I know there are a couple of repeaters near-ish.
                              Just a case of wait and hope? Stick it in the loft? Increase power?
                              Any help and speculation welcomed ๐Ÿ˜„

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                              @Edent either put it outside the window or further inside the room. To me, where it is, looks like it would block signal. It would literally โ€œskipโ€ โ€” just a thought.

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                              • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                @psfshr I'm on the 3rd floor, which I thought would help.

                                I do wonder if the solar panels on the roof might block the signal if I put a repeater up there.

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                                @Edent That I donโ€™t know. Weโ€™ve got panels too on both aspects and still got signals. Brick and block I feel is worse ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ

                                Ideal seems to be outside in free air, but thatโ€™s not always feasible.

                                Also depends on the direction of what youโ€™re trying to get to, and how much stuff youโ€™re having to go through on the way. Could just try moving to a different window, might be a repeater in a different direction.

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                                • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                  Well the #Meshcore is *sort of* working.
                                  With it's new placement I can just about hear one repeater.
                                  I'm receiving some messages, but I guess my antenna is to puny to send any.
                                  My noise floor looks good (I think) and I've discovered a few nodes.
                                  I think I need more power and/or a bigger antenna.
                                  If you're on the mesh, feel free to send me a message and I'll let you know if it arrives (details above).

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                                  Discovered more #meshcore nodes overnight, but still only infrequently receiving messages. Will try moving the tiny antenna to the loft - although that will reduce my Bluetooth connection to it.

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                                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                    Discovered more #meshcore nodes overnight, but still only infrequently receiving messages. Will try moving the tiny antenna to the loft - although that will reduce my Bluetooth connection to it.

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                                    @Edent I have two companion nodes and, weirdly, they don't see the same contacts as each other despite being turned on at the same times.

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                                    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                      Discovered more #meshcore nodes overnight, but still only infrequently receiving messages. Will try moving the tiny antenna to the loft - although that will reduce my Bluetooth connection to it.

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                                      @Edent Put a repeater in your attic and your companion with you downstairs ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                        @falken 90ยฐ bend at the top as it loops over.

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                                        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                          Discovered more #meshcore nodes overnight, but still only infrequently receiving messages. Will try moving the tiny antenna to the loft - although that will reduce my Bluetooth connection to it.

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                                          Stuck the #meshcore in my loft. Hasn't meaningfully changed the signal strength.
                                          Might try some different equipment or switching to #meshtastic.

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