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If you have strong opinions about #Mesh networking, please let me know.

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  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

    @Edent Most repeaters send adverts maybe once every 12 or 24 hours. So let it sit a few days for the contact list to fill. You should join the test and ping channel and send a ping to see what replies you get back. That should tell you more about who actually sees you.

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    @jwildeboer Yup - has been on for 24 hours. Only seeing that repeater directly.

    My pings go unanswered and my messages to the test channels aren't delivered.

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    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

      @jwildeboer Yup - has been on for 24 hours. Only seeing that repeater directly.

      My pings go unanswered and my messages to the test channels aren't delivered.

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      @Edent Then my best guess is that the one repeater you can connect to is operated by a HAM operator who is allowed to send with higher power. Or has a better antenna with higher gain. One of those will be the reason your packets won't make it 😞

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      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

        Well the #Meshcore is *sort of* working.
        With it's new placement I can just about hear one repeater.
        I'm receiving some messages, but I guess my antenna is to puny to send any.
        My noise floor looks good (I think) and I've discovered a few nodes.
        I think I need more power and/or a bigger antenna.
        If you're on the mesh, feel free to send me a message and I'll let you know if it arrives (details above).

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        @Edent I had to get a repeater in the attic before I got any decent reliable connection.

        With radio, height appears to be key

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        • psfshr@mastodon.me.ukP psfshr@mastodon.me.uk

          @Edent I had to get a repeater in the attic before I got any decent reliable connection.

          With radio, height appears to be key

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          @psfshr I'm on the 3rd floor, which I thought would help.

          I do wonder if the solar panels on the roof might block the signal if I put a repeater up there.

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          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

            OK my #Meshcore friends, what am I doing wrong?
            Board is on the 3rd floor (over 6m above ground height.
            Powered on, connected via Bluetooth, by a window.
            Set to UK long range.
            Been up for about 30 minutes and hasn't discovered any neighbours.
            I know there are a couple of repeaters near-ish.
            Just a case of wait and hope? Stick it in the loft? Increase power?
            Any help and speculation welcomed 😄

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            @Edent either put it outside the window or further inside the room. To me, where it is, looks like it would block signal. It would literally “skip” — just a thought.

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            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

              @psfshr I'm on the 3rd floor, which I thought would help.

              I do wonder if the solar panels on the roof might block the signal if I put a repeater up there.

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              @Edent That I don’t know. We’ve got panels too on both aspects and still got signals. Brick and block I feel is worse 🤷🏻‍♂️

              Ideal seems to be outside in free air, but that’s not always feasible.

              Also depends on the direction of what you’re trying to get to, and how much stuff you’re having to go through on the way. Could just try moving to a different window, might be a repeater in a different direction.

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              • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                Well the #Meshcore is *sort of* working.
                With it's new placement I can just about hear one repeater.
                I'm receiving some messages, but I guess my antenna is to puny to send any.
                My noise floor looks good (I think) and I've discovered a few nodes.
                I think I need more power and/or a bigger antenna.
                If you're on the mesh, feel free to send me a message and I'll let you know if it arrives (details above).

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                Discovered more #meshcore nodes overnight, but still only infrequently receiving messages. Will try moving the tiny antenna to the loft - although that will reduce my Bluetooth connection to it.

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                • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                  Discovered more #meshcore nodes overnight, but still only infrequently receiving messages. Will try moving the tiny antenna to the loft - although that will reduce my Bluetooth connection to it.

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                  @Edent I have two companion nodes and, weirdly, they don't see the same contacts as each other despite being turned on at the same times.

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                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                    Discovered more #meshcore nodes overnight, but still only infrequently receiving messages. Will try moving the tiny antenna to the loft - although that will reduce my Bluetooth connection to it.

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                    @Edent Put a repeater in your attic and your companion with you downstairs 🙂

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                      @falken 90° bend at the top as it loops over.

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                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                        Discovered more #meshcore nodes overnight, but still only infrequently receiving messages. Will try moving the tiny antenna to the loft - although that will reduce my Bluetooth connection to it.

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                        Stuck the #meshcore in my loft. Hasn't meaningfully changed the signal strength.
                        Might try some different equipment or switching to #meshtastic.

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                        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                          Stuck the #meshcore in my loft. Hasn't meaningfully changed the signal strength.
                          Might try some different equipment or switching to #meshtastic.

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                          @Edent I live in “the hills” outside Austin, TX and meshtastic is basically worthless until I get into a city or go further west into the flatlands. I was very disappointed.

                          And, not sure what the channels are like for you but the chat for me was definitely not my preferred circle of people. I’m sure that varies greatly depending on your location.

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                          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                            Stuck the #meshcore in my loft. Hasn't meaningfully changed the signal strength.
                            Might try some different equipment or switching to #meshtastic.

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                            @Edent I can hear that poor thing screaming in agony trying to hang on.

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                            • bekopharm@indieweb.socialB bekopharm@indieweb.social

                              @Edent I can hear that poor thing screaming in agony trying to hang on.

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                              @bekopharm damn straight. Electronics should be made to suffer.

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                              • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                @bekopharm damn straight. Electronics should be made to suffer.

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                                @Edent 27 mice and 1 marten near you liked that too.

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                                • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                  Stuck the #meshcore in my loft. Hasn't meaningfully changed the signal strength.
                                  Might try some different equipment or switching to #meshtastic.

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                                  @Edent better antenna could help. I’ve definitely seen a big difference between antennas. Also have you tried the medium range or narrow settings? I think narrow has really taken over as the preferred setting in a lot of places. https://analyzer.letsmesh.net/map?lat=52.82493&long=-1.27596&zoom=5

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                                  • alec@perkins.pubA alec@perkins.pub

                                    @Edent better antenna could help. I’ve definitely seen a big difference between antennas. Also have you tried the medium range or narrow settings? I think narrow has really taken over as the preferred setting in a lot of places. https://analyzer.letsmesh.net/map?lat=52.82493&long=-1.27596&zoom=5

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                                    @alec Thanks. I'm on Narrow - as recommended by others.
                                    Looks like I need a better antenna!

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                                    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                      @alec Thanks. I'm on Narrow - as recommended by others.
                                      Looks like I need a better antenna!

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                                      @Edent I have recs for the 915 band, alas I don’t know 868. Something else to mind is the narrow setting has a pretty sharp falloff. It really needs infrastructure relatively nearby to work reliably. If you can figure out the closest repeater you might be able to orient the antenna toward it. Also outside is much more effective, but of course challenging.

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                                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                        Stuck the #meshcore in my loft. Hasn't meaningfully changed the signal strength.
                                        Might try some different equipment or switching to #meshtastic.

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                                        @Edent that ‘rubber duck’ vertical antenna will do better if it has a counterpoise or a ground plane to act against. A ‘rat tail’ counterpoise is just a bit of wire 1/4 wavelengths long, connected to the outer shield at the antenna base. They’re most common on handheld radios. Probably the cheapest and quickest thing to test.

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                                        • m0rpk@mastodon.radioM m0rpk@mastodon.radio

                                          @Edent that ‘rubber duck’ vertical antenna will do better if it has a counterpoise or a ground plane to act against. A ‘rat tail’ counterpoise is just a bit of wire 1/4 wavelengths long, connected to the outer shield at the antenna base. They’re most common on handheld radios. Probably the cheapest and quickest thing to test.

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                                          @Edent For example, https://baofengtech.com/improve-the-performance-of-your-rubber-duck-with-a-rat-tail/

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