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Most major #media and #socialMedia in the #USA is now right wing controlled

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  • wjmaggos@liberal.cityW wjmaggos@liberal.city

    @benroyce @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

    I asked you what you thought the point of this place was and told you I think it has revolutionary potential to deal with money in our culture and civics. but that would require the masses be here. the too strict norm most embrace here prevents that. so I argue against it and hope that eventually, people agree. others then argue for it too. same with any argument about how things should change and what I think is possible if it does. reasoned persuasion.

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    @wjmaggos @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

    bigots are currently opposing revolutionary potential because they support Fox News lies fed to them by plutocrats. the symbiosis of bigots getting sadism, and plutocrats getting money, keeps that system going

    do you also argue for plutocrats to be here?

    because you're not going to get anything revolutionary with bigoted morons or malicious plutocrats

    so any argument for either to be here is to me nothing but idiocy

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      @benroyce @blotosmetek @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

      My retort would be ‘That’s not a question, it’s a buzzkill.’

      But then I have just been reading from Pirkei Avot: “Shammai used to say: make your [study of the] Torah a fixed practice; speak little, but do much; and receive all men with a pleasant countenance.” https://www.sefaria.org/Pirkei_Avot.1.15?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en

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      • chemoelectric@masto.aiC chemoelectric@masto.ai

        @benroyce @blotosmetek @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

        My retort would be ‘That’s not a question, it’s a buzzkill.’

        But then I have just been reading from Pirkei Avot: “Shammai used to say: make your [study of the] Torah a fixed practice; speak little, but do much; and receive all men with a pleasant countenance.” https://www.sefaria.org/Pirkei_Avot.1.15?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en

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        @chemoelectric @blotosmetek @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

        "speak little, but do much"

        i would settle for

        "speak at least coherently, and do the bare minimum"

        because that's the measure we're currently failing on

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @wjmaggos @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

          bigots are currently opposing revolutionary potential because they support Fox News lies fed to them by plutocrats. the symbiosis of bigots getting sadism, and plutocrats getting money, keeps that system going

          do you also argue for plutocrats to be here?

          because you're not going to get anything revolutionary with bigoted morons or malicious plutocrats

          so any argument for either to be here is to me nothing but idiocy

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          @benroyce @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

          everybody being here or anywhere doesn't mean the bad people have power to fuck with us. that's the whole point of decentralization and no algos/ads or democratic government and enforcing laws.

          the goal is to get them playing on our fair field, not the one they own. where we don't let the plutocrats have more power or let the bigots abuse anyone. but it has to be fair like that. today fedi is saying hang here till we decide you have bad ideas. then bye.

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          • wjmaggos@liberal.cityW wjmaggos@liberal.city

            @benroyce @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

            everybody being here or anywhere doesn't mean the bad people have power to fuck with us. that's the whole point of decentralization and no algos/ads or democratic government and enforcing laws.

            the goal is to get them playing on our fair field, not the one they own. where we don't let the plutocrats have more power or let the bigots abuse anyone. but it has to be fair like that. today fedi is saying hang here till we decide you have bad ideas. then bye.

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            @wjmaggos @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

            i agree we should grow the fediverse

            and we should have more normies here

            but there is a baseline of behavior:

            no. bigotry.

            you disagree?

            that's fine. i do not fucking care. if you think your rationale is so superior, then you federate on that rationale, and you enjoy yourself and i look forward to the WilliamMaggosVerse being a stunning success

            and i really mean that. no sarcasm. it's fine

            but:

            no. bigotry. *here*

            accept that or fuck off

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @wjmaggos @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

              i agree we should grow the fediverse

              and we should have more normies here

              but there is a baseline of behavior:

              no. bigotry.

              you disagree?

              that's fine. i do not fucking care. if you think your rationale is so superior, then you federate on that rationale, and you enjoy yourself and i look forward to the WilliamMaggosVerse being a stunning success

              and i really mean that. no sarcasm. it's fine

              but:

              no. bigotry. *here*

              accept that or fuck off

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              @benroyce @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

              right and you can have democracy where people keep not voting in primaries.

              or we'll both keep making our cases. and maybe the fedi will change in ways you don't like but I do. maybe you'll change your mind.

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              • wjmaggos@liberal.cityW wjmaggos@liberal.city

                @benroyce @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

                right and you can have democracy where people keep not voting in primaries.

                or we'll both keep making our cases. and maybe the fedi will change in ways you don't like but I do. maybe you'll change your mind.

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                @wjmaggos @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

                😂 😂 😂

                you're honestly comparing voting in the primaries with letting bigots on the fediverse?

                this is a real comparison you want to make and you think it is a coherent and valid comparison?

                people participating in society, and hatebags ripping society apart?

                you think you're going to make that comparison william and do anything other than make yourself out to be deeply cringe?

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @wjmaggos @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

                  😂 😂 😂

                  you're honestly comparing voting in the primaries with letting bigots on the fediverse?

                  this is a real comparison you want to make and you think it is a coherent and valid comparison?

                  people participating in society, and hatebags ripping society apart?

                  you think you're going to make that comparison william and do anything other than make yourself out to be deeply cringe?

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                  @benroyce @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

                  why do you always end your post with an insult?

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                  • wjmaggos@liberal.cityW wjmaggos@liberal.city

                    @benroyce @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

                    why do you always end your post with an insult?

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                    @wjmaggos @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

                    99% of people wouldn't even engage you on this bullshit "let bigots into the fediverse"

                    i'm not sure if you don't understand how out there you are, or you know but just don't care

                    either way, entertainment and amusement is why i'm here

                    i consider myself a connoisseur of fools trolls and quacks

                    insults will be the price you pay to continue a pointless thread beyond all reason. no coherent cognition can continue to engage your nuttery without going "wtf?"

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @Tofu_Golem @mason @mistergibson

                      the only choice in the world is harm reduction or greater harm

                      sitting things out and thus helping greater harm win is you being an idiot, or you being a troll trying to help MAGA win

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                      @benroyce @Tofu_Golem @mistergibson If harm reduction requires genocide, then no. That's a trap to get people to support people who shouldn't be in power.

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                      • mason@partychickens.netM mason@partychickens.net

                        @benroyce @Tofu_Golem @mistergibson If harm reduction requires genocide, then no. That's a trap to get people to support people who shouldn't be in power.

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                        @mason @Tofu_Golem @mistergibson

                        mason: gaza is experiencing a genocide. so that is what you must deal with. all you are really is saying is "i don't want to deal with reality"

                        well, you need to deal with it. make the choice for harm reduction

                        if someone has thrown up all over themselves are you helping them by saying "i ain't dealing with that" and walking away?

                        maybe you don't feel a need to help them

                        then, according to this analogy, you are saying you don't care about improving the world

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                        • eetschrijver@mastodon.socialE eetschrijver@mastodon.social

                          @benroyce
                          We should note that Péter Magyar is far from a Mr. Perfect. For one, he's a staunch conservative who embraces several of Orbán's ideas and program points. However, he's not corrupt, he's not pro-Russian, he's not an autocrat. The Hungarian people know you don't get from hell to heaven in a day and that the first step in getting away from hell is to vote AGAINST hell and FOR whoever is NOT hell. That's precisely what they did, and what America DIDN'T do in November 2024.
                          @mistergibson

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                          @Eetschrijver @benroyce @mistergibson

                          This is so true. If you want perfection, you're on the wrong planet.

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                            @ElizabethEiler @mastodonmigration @benroyce

                            Right. It's not enough to put the fascists in prison, it's got to be impossible for this disaster to be repeated.

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @chemoelectric @blotosmetek @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

                              "speak little, but do much"

                              i would settle for

                              "speak at least coherently, and do the bare minimum"

                              because that's the measure we're currently failing on

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                              @benroyce @blotosmetek @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

                              I grok. If you follow my stuff more closely than anyone actually does, you know that coherence is precisely what I desire to receive and do not generally obtain unless I construct it for myself, if I can manage it.

                              (And I am running out of time and no one will listen. I suppose this is what William Blake felt like. Whatever the heck he was trying to say. 🙂 )

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                              • chemoelectric@masto.aiC chemoelectric@masto.ai

                                @benroyce @blotosmetek @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

                                I grok. If you follow my stuff more closely than anyone actually does, you know that coherence is precisely what I desire to receive and do not generally obtain unless I construct it for myself, if I can manage it.

                                (And I am running out of time and no one will listen. I suppose this is what William Blake felt like. Whatever the heck he was trying to say. 🙂 )

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                                @benroyce @blotosmetek @Eetschrijver @mistergibson (Background on that is Blake was furiously drawing and writing his famous books on his deathbed, as if the future of Humanity depended on it.)

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                                  @ElizabethEiler @BlueDot @mastodonmigration @benroyce I'm quite afraid that Blanche already is the greater evil at DOJ
                                  His dark legacy will make Bondi seem rational by comparison

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                                  • chemoelectric@masto.aiC chemoelectric@masto.ai

                                    @benroyce @blotosmetek @Eetschrijver @mistergibson (Background on that is Blake was furiously drawing and writing his famous books on his deathbed, as if the future of Humanity depended on it.)

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                                    @chemoelectric @blotosmetek @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

                                    william blake. one cool bean

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @chemoelectric @blotosmetek @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

                                      william blake. one cool bean

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                                      @benroyce @blotosmetek @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

                                      Cool stuff. Wish I understood him.

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                                      • chemoelectric@masto.aiC chemoelectric@masto.ai

                                        @benroyce @blotosmetek @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

                                        Cool stuff. Wish I understood him.

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                                        @chemoelectric @blotosmetek @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

                                        who does?

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                                        • chemoelectric@masto.aiC chemoelectric@masto.ai

                                          @benroyce @blotosmetek @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

                                          Cool stuff. Wish I understood him.

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                                          @benroyce @blotosmetek @Eetschrijver @mistergibson

                                          I mean DEEPLY understood him.

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