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Let the truth be told, let the press be free.

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  • lykkerik@fribygda.noL lykkerik@fribygda.no

    @EUCommission No charges. No trial. No conviction. Just punishment.
    Free Hüseyin Doğru. End the EU Sanctions on Journalism.

    His bank accounts are frozen. He is banned from working.https://informationrights.org/take-action/free-huseyin-dogru

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    @Lykkerik @EUCommission if he indeed was funneling Russian state money into propaganda projects it seems entirely appropriate, that isn't journalism.

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    • ikuturso@mastodon.socialI ikuturso@mastodon.social

      @Lykkerik @EUCommission if he indeed was funneling Russian state money into propaganda projects it seems entirely appropriate, that isn't journalism.

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      @ikuturso @EUCommission No charges, no trial, no conviction, just punishment, seems entirely appropriate to you?

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      • jipexu@mastodon.socialJ jipexu@mastodon.social

        @lindarosesmit @EUCommission
        @Gardenia @Geri
        Sérieusement !?
        Vous avez toujours 3 ou 4 guerres de retard avant de seulement vous inquiéter mollement... mais votre inaction chronique pour des sanctions envers les auteurs des ces crimes, ne fait que les aggraver et les multiplier ! ...

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        @jipexu C'est du blabla.... diplomatique... comme notre MEAE. Je les connais bien les diplos : ils sortent tous de sciences po ou de l'ENA, ils sont formatés pour reciter des éléments de langages, pas pour être dans l'action.
        @lindarosesmit @EUCommission @Geri

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        • lykkerik@fribygda.noL lykkerik@fribygda.no

          @ikuturso @EUCommission No charges, no trial, no conviction, just punishment, seems entirely appropriate to you?

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          @Lykkerik @EUCommission it's exactly how sanctions are supposed work, they're not at all a "punishment" in the sense that convictions in the justice system are.

          That's not to say they cannot be challenged legally after the fact of course if there's any real basis to do it. In this case it sounds like there may not really be.

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          • gardenia@eldritch.cafeG gardenia@eldritch.cafe

            @jipexu C'est du blabla.... diplomatique... comme notre MEAE. Je les connais bien les diplos : ils sortent tous de sciences po ou de l'ENA, ils sont formatés pour reciter des éléments de langages, pas pour être dans l'action.
            @lindarosesmit @EUCommission @Geri

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            @Gardenia @lindarosesmit @EUCommission @Geri
            Oui !
            Et leur inaction les conduits à la complicité telle qu'elle est définie dans la plupart des système judiciaire...

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            • jipexu@mastodon.socialJ jipexu@mastodon.social

              @Gardenia @lindarosesmit @EUCommission @Geri
              Oui !
              Et leur inaction les conduits à la complicité telle qu'elle est définie dans la plupart des système judiciaire...

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              @jipexu @lindarosesmit @EUCommission @Geri Oui 😉

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              • ikuturso@mastodon.socialI ikuturso@mastodon.social

                @Lykkerik @EUCommission it's exactly how sanctions are supposed work, they're not at all a "punishment" in the sense that convictions in the justice system are.

                That's not to say they cannot be challenged legally after the fact of course if there's any real basis to do it. In this case it sounds like there may not really be.

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                @ikuturso @EUCommission So, to avoid the annoying legal principle that you're innocent until proven guilty, we use sanctions because sanctions (blocking an individual and his family's existence) is not punishment. Sounds alarmingly antidemocratic to me.

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                • lykkerik@fribygda.noL lykkerik@fribygda.no

                  @ikuturso @EUCommission So, to avoid the annoying legal principle that you're innocent until proven guilty, we use sanctions because sanctions (blocking an individual and his family's existence) is not punishment. Sounds alarmingly antidemocratic to me.

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                  @Lykkerik @EUCommission well, if we started seeing cases where state actors weren't really involved and the connection to foreign policy was not really defensible I'd agree it would be worrying.

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                  • ikuturso@mastodon.socialI ikuturso@mastodon.social

                    @Lykkerik @EUCommission well, if we started seeing cases where state actors weren't really involved and the connection to foreign policy was not really defensible I'd agree it would be worrying.

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                    @ikuturso @EUCommission Either you believe in the basic legal principle that everyone's innocent until proven guilty, or you don't. Has he been tried and found guilty of committing a crime, or not? What follows that sort of legal understanding is also this: https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/icc-strongly-rejects-new-us-sanctions-against-judges-and-deputy-prosecutors

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                    • lindarosesmit@mastodon.socialL lindarosesmit@mastodon.social

                      @EUCommission well done. Now start sanctioning Israel for constantly targeting journalist.

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                      @lindarosesmit @EUCommission and why not beginning with european countries ? Like FRANCE ?
                      https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/11/france-is-not-the-free-speech-champion-it-says-it-is-2/

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                      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                        Let the truth be told, let the press be free. 📰

                        Journalists give voice to the voiceless, hold power to account, and keep citizens informed often at great personal risk.

                        Too many face intimidation, censorship, and violence simply for doing their job.

                        This World Press Freedom Day, we reaffirm our commitment to protecting journalists and defending independent media.

                        Because free press is the foundation of democracy.

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                        @EUCommission Except when the truth is mildly inconvenient to those in power or those with wealth. Then the truth will be muted and reporters will lose funding.

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                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                          Let the truth be told, let the press be free. 📰

                          Journalists give voice to the voiceless, hold power to account, and keep citizens informed often at great personal risk.

                          Too many face intimidation, censorship, and violence simply for doing their job.

                          This World Press Freedom Day, we reaffirm our commitment to protecting journalists and defending independent media.

                          Because free press is the foundation of democracy.

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                          @EUCommission the why not pressure #israel more about killing #journalists. About not letting #journalists into #gaza?

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                          • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                            Let the truth be told, let the press be free. 📰

                            Journalists give voice to the voiceless, hold power to account, and keep citizens informed often at great personal risk.

                            Too many face intimidation, censorship, and violence simply for doing their job.

                            This World Press Freedom Day, we reaffirm our commitment to protecting journalists and defending independent media.

                            Because free press is the foundation of democracy.

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                            @EUCommission suspend the EU-Israel trade agreement to give this pledge some teeth

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                            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                              Let the truth be told, let the press be free. 📰

                              Journalists give voice to the voiceless, hold power to account, and keep citizens informed often at great personal risk.

                              Too many face intimidation, censorship, and violence simply for doing their job.

                              This World Press Freedom Day, we reaffirm our commitment to protecting journalists and defending independent media.

                              Because free press is the foundation of democracy.

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                              @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu
                              Fuck the EU and its complicity with an ongoing genocide.

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                              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                Let the truth be told, let the press be free. 📰

                                Journalists give voice to the voiceless, hold power to account, and keep citizens informed often at great personal risk.

                                Too many face intimidation, censorship, and violence simply for doing their job.

                                This World Press Freedom Day, we reaffirm our commitment to protecting journalists and defending independent media.

                                Because free press is the foundation of democracy.

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                                @EUCommission Then stop pushing for ID verification online.
                                Not every opinion needs to be bound to an ID. Let journalists and everyone else be anonymous if they need or want to.

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                                • lykkerik@fribygda.noL lykkerik@fribygda.no

                                  @ikuturso @EUCommission Either you believe in the basic legal principle that everyone's innocent until proven guilty, or you don't. Has he been tried and found guilty of committing a crime, or not? What follows that sort of legal understanding is also this: https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/icc-strongly-rejects-new-us-sanctions-against-judges-and-deputy-prosecutors

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                                  @Lykkerik @EUCommission Nah, this has nothing to do with that "basic legal principle" as I already explained. The ICC sanctions by the USA are utterly indefensible in comparison to these as they are targeting an independent international court performing its appropriate legal functions, something that shouldn't even be the basis of sanctions in the first place.

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                                    @#BlindAltBot Dead terrorists, good terrorist.
                                    #^https://www.timesofisrael.com/majority-of-journalists-killed-in-gaza-linked-to-terror-organizations-study-says/
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                                    • lindarosesmit@mastodon.socialL lindarosesmit@mastodon.social

                                      @EUCommission well done. Now start sanctioning Israel for constantly targeting journalist.

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                                      @Linda Rose Smit 😂
                                      #^https://www.timesofisrael.com/majority-of-journalists-killed-in-gaza-linked-to-terror-organizations-study-says/
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                                      • rhelune@todon.euR rhelune@todon.eu

                                        @EUCommission You are starving a German journalist's children because he dared to write about the genocide of Palestinians!

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                                        @Enola Knezevic What genocide?

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                                        • bigbelgianbopper@mastodon-belgium.beB bigbelgianbopper@mastodon-belgium.be

                                          @EUCommission the why not pressure #israel more about killing #journalists. About not letting #journalists into #gaza?

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                                          @Big Belgian Bopper 🔻🐸 Terrorist is not journalist.
                                          #^https://www.timesofisrael.com/majority-of-journalists-killed-in-gaza-linked-to-terror-organizations-study-says/
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