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  • komali_2@mastodon.socialK komali_2@mastodon.social

    @soapdog @rakoo @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera

    The consequence - treating any association as moral contagion, cancelling, social ostracization, boycotting - seems insufficient given the label: Nazi.

    I was raised in the punk scene: you see a swastika, you start swinging. When I see them sprayed on a wall, I immediately drop everything I'm doing to cover it.

    How we treat DHH doesn't match that label, and how we criticize Framework doesn't match what I'd expect for a true Nazi supporter.

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    @komali_2 @rakoo @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera

    you seem to be conflating things. It doesn't matter if DHH views are UKIP ones, they are both nazis and should go into the bin.

    You keep raising examples from elsewhere as in "this is also fucked", we know, this doesn't detract from the fact he is a known nazi and we should stop platforming him. The fact there are other nazis in the world is well known. We do one at a time.

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    • komali_2@mastodon.socialK komali_2@mastodon.social

      @Sobex @reflex @Foxboron @soapdog @smilingdemon @alatiera This list is kept up to date https://frame.work/tw/en/blog/framework-sponsorships

      They bought a booth and advertising at Rails World for 24k euro as mentioned, same as prior year. None of that money actually goes to DHH, he's not compensated as chair so far as I know.

      For comparison, 30k at Hackaday Supercon, 20k at Open Source Summit.

      They only give actual donations to e.g. nixOS and Debian, not conferences. Conferences are them getting ads.

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      @komali_2 @reflex @Foxboron @soapdog @smilingdemon @alatiera So rail worlds and Hyprland still supported, plus laptop sent to DHH (is he the only dev of omarchy ?).

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        @soapdog @rakoo @Foxboron @smilingdemon @alatiera

        Ok, I appreciate your convo on this with me. I'm trying to understand people better, hella autistic over here.

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        • sobex@social.sciences.reS sobex@social.sciences.re

          @komali_2 @reflex @Foxboron @soapdog @smilingdemon @alatiera So rail worlds and Hyprland still supported, plus laptop sent to DHH (is he the only dev of omarchy ?).

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          @Sobex @reflex @Foxboron @soapdog @smilingdemon @alatiera

          He's the only dev of any consequence, yes. I really wish the Omarchy project would die, it's pretty much trash. What I do want to study is why it's able to explode in popularity - what, cause it ships with a pretty hyprland theme? There's a manjaro version that ships with hyprland, never got the content creator run. I don't get it.

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          • alatiera@mastodon.socialA alatiera@mastodon.social

            Framework listens to their audience so much that they send another pre-release laptop to DHH.

            Enjoy the new Nazibook 13 pro.

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            @alatiera fuck. @frameworkcomputer care to comment? Is DHH really someone you wish to be associated with?

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            • alatiera@mastodon.socialA alatiera@mastodon.social

              Framework listens to their audience so much that they send another pre-release laptop to DHH.

              Enjoy the new Nazibook 13 pro.

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              Their promo post for the laptop was "We heard you".

              I wish I had seen this sooner, you can't make this up. The jokes write themselves.

              Framework :fedora: :ubuntu: (@frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org)

              We heard you: the new Framework Laptop 13 Pro. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnOpIQJnYWU

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                Their promo post for the laptop was "We heard you".

                I wish I had seen this sooner, you can't make this up. The jokes write themselves.

                Framework :fedora: :ubuntu: (@frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org)

                We heard you: the new Framework Laptop 13 Pro. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnOpIQJnYWU

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                @alatiera I wish I could say I was surprised....

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                • alatiera@mastodon.socialA alatiera@mastodon.social

                  Framework listens to their audience so much that they send another pre-release laptop to DHH.

                  Enjoy the new Nazibook 13 pro.

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                  @alatiera I am very disappointed. I thought they learned their lesson after they stopped glazing the Omarchy "linux distro" on X and returned to mastodon. I honestly feel like something weird is going on at framework, like they usually listen to the community but with this one thing they don't seem to ever really listen. A lot of their employees aren't white, including the CEO yet they still haven't reconsidered. I'm honestly starting to wonder if money is involved in some way as this seems ridiculous. I don't get why otherwise they would think this pile of bash scripts made by a known racist is worth sacrificing their brand image for. I don't see Framework Computer listed as a sponsor on DHH's conference (rails world) yet but I wouldn't be surprised if they return, even after all the backlash.

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                  • alatiera@mastodon.socialA alatiera@mastodon.social

                    Framework listens to their audience so much that they send another pre-release laptop to DHH.

                    Enjoy the new Nazibook 13 pro.

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                    @alatiera genuine question: what's so nazi about it? Why even call it that way?

                    I don't get it. I'm genuinely infinitely curious.

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                    • reflex@retrogaming.socialR reflex@retrogaming.social

                      @smilingdemon @soapdog @alatiera Omarchy isn't even a distro, it's just some confs. There is zero reason to send them hardware.

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                      @reflex @smilingdemon @soapdog @alatiera Why not send it to the Arch Linux developers instead? The developers that this Nazi benefits of.

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                      • thaodan@mastodon.socialT thaodan@mastodon.social

                        @reflex @smilingdemon @soapdog @alatiera Why not send it to the Arch Linux developers instead? The developers that this Nazi benefits of.

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                        @thaodan @smilingdemon @soapdog @alatiera Literally this. If they wanted to support projects, send it to Arch, not Omarchy.

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                        • alatiera@mastodon.socialA alatiera@mastodon.social

                          Framework listens to their audience so much that they send another pre-release laptop to DHH.

                          Enjoy the new Nazibook 13 pro.

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                          @alatiera Seems like someone from DHH's company - may be DHH himself - has written drivers for those intel panther lake.

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                          • alatiera@mastodon.socialA alatiera@mastodon.social

                            Framework listens to their audience so much that they send another pre-release laptop to DHH.

                            Enjoy the new Nazibook 13 pro.

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                            @alatiera hey @frameworkcomputer to make one misstep may be okay, but why do you continue doing that? It severely hurts your image, business and no it's not "just a big tend".

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