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  3. Nearly three-quarters (72%) of citizens agree: our union brings real benefits.

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  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

    Nearly three-quarters (72%) of citizens agree: our union brings real benefits. 🇪🇺

    The results of our Eurobarometer survey are out:

    🔹 Trust in the EU to protect democracy is up
    🔹Protecting democracy is your #1 reason for trusting us
    🔹74% support the euro
    🔹60% are optimistic about the EU’s future

    We’re tackling your top concerns, from cost of living to global security, head on.

    The EU has your back.

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    #31

    @EUCommission I love watching poorly socialised men (shush, you know it) beg for attention under each Eurobarometer post. 😏

    Meanwhile, I know who the 🇪🇺 prime mover of being full of shit is. My fellow EUropeans, telling the nice Eurostat caller things that make you feel good about yourself is cheap. Voting is the ultimate revealed preference. And you keep voting for majority majorly shit national governments that keep their knee on the EU's neck.

    Happy #EuropeDay !

    https://youtu.be/6q1NAWReBa4

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    • jtb@toot.walesJ jtb@toot.wales

      @benroyce @phl @EUCommission I think criticizing government is perfectly acceptable in a democracy. It's what the press do all the time.

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      @jtb @phl @EUCommission

      hypercritical voices online serve no political purpose. they only serve the ego of the person doing the hypercriticism

      no understanding of doing the work. just standing on perfectionism and shouting demands

      this fosters disappointment, disengagement, alienation. feeding the right

      it's a psyop

      from entitled people. with no idea how precarious the foundations they stand on are

      again, i am warning you as an american

      go ahead and ignore me. and learn the hard way

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @jtb @phl @EUCommission

        hypercritical voices online serve no political purpose. they only serve the ego of the person doing the hypercriticism

        no understanding of doing the work. just standing on perfectionism and shouting demands

        this fosters disappointment, disengagement, alienation. feeding the right

        it's a psyop

        from entitled people. with no idea how precarious the foundations they stand on are

        again, i am warning you as an american

        go ahead and ignore me. and learn the hard way

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        @benroyce @phl @EUCommission But you are an hypercritical voice online.

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        • phl@mastodon.socialP phl@mastodon.social

          @benroyce @jtb @EUCommission I'm pretty sure their re-re-re-reattempting to implement chat control, their folding to the US, US Big Tech surveillance companies, and to the AI fomo is much, much more dangerous to our Europe and to our democracy, than the "entitled screeching" of citizens rightfully concerned about the Commission — over which, I repeat, we have no direct control or influence — doing things that go against us as citizens.

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          @phl @jtb @EUCommission

          then put in the real work to defeat that obvious evil

          don't shout at a social media account and smugly declare that you "put in the work"

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @phl @jtb @EUCommission

            then put in the real work to defeat that obvious evil

            don't shout at a social media account and smugly declare that you "put in the work"

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            @benroyce @phl @EUCommission I didn't declare that I "put in the work". Why is that in quotes? Who are you quoting?

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            • phl@mastodon.socialP phl@mastodon.social

              @benroyce @jtb @EUCommission I'm pretty sure their re-re-re-reattempting to implement chat control, their folding to the US, US Big Tech surveillance companies, and to the AI fomo is much, much more dangerous to our Europe and to our democracy, than the "entitled screeching" of citizens rightfully concerned about the Commission — over which, I repeat, we have no direct control or influence — doing things that go against us as citizens.

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              @benroyce @jtb @EUCommission Sure, it's the elected heads of states, and in the other council the ministers appointed by said elected heads of states, but that's just way too many layers — I don't think we can say we have any say in the matter.

              Would you say that you, under any US president, have any kind of influence over who your Secretaries are and what they represent? And what they'd represent in an international formation with other Secretaries/Ministers?

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              • jtb@toot.walesJ jtb@toot.wales

                @benroyce @EUCommission Mostly you are calling me names. I have no idea what I am supposed to be learning from you.

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                #37

                @jtb @EUCommission

                don't worry about it

                i've seen this play out before

                people don't listen

                they put in "the work" of feeling smug by shouting at social media accounts, because they want perfect now

                hen when it comes time to do the real work to show up and achieve their goals, which is dreary because it involves slow movement towards better (perfect isn't on the menu), they are nowhere to be found, because there's no dopamine hit in that

                because their real goal is merely satiating their ego

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                • jtb@toot.walesJ jtb@toot.wales

                  @EUCommission I don't agree. And you are unelected. Bring back democracy to the #EU !

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                  #38

                  Hi @jtb! The EU is a democracy and this means that you have the right to disagree with us. You can also help shape EU policies directly through tools like the European Citizens’ Initiative and European Citizens’ Panels.

                  Furthermore, you are directly represented in the European Parliament, which is elected by EU citizens, while EU countries are represented in the Council and the European Council.

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                  • jtb@toot.walesJ jtb@toot.wales

                    @benroyce @phl @EUCommission I didn't declare that I "put in the work". Why is that in quotes? Who are you quoting?

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                    @jtb @phl @EUCommission

                    the quotes are to indicate there is no real work put in at all

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                    • jtb@toot.walesJ jtb@toot.wales

                      @benroyce @phl @EUCommission But you are an hypercritical voice online.

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                      @jtb @phl @EUCommission

                      of hypercriticism

                      it's not right to disrespect. unless you are disrespecting the disrespectful

                      it's not right to be intolerant. unless you are intolerant of intolerance

                      and it's not right to be hypercritical. unless you are hypercritical of hypercriticism

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @phl @jtb @EUCommission

                        then put in the real work to defeat that obvious evil

                        don't shout at a social media account and smugly declare that you "put in the work"

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                        @benroyce @jtb @EUCommission Can you call your congresspeople or senators (cf. representatives), or can you call your Secretary (cf. Minister)? I'm pretty sure even in a relatively less insane country you can the former but not the latter.

                        As such you can't possibly put in "real work" to influence them. You can, however, pressure your reps, who are in Parliament (national or EU), who you can hope they'll take into account your pressure when they vote.

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                        • regguy@mstdn.socialR regguy@mstdn.social

                          @benroyce @richlv @paranormal_distribution@fosstodon.org @EUCommission An example of how to achieve one's goals is a study in how the GOP destroyed America in 45 years. Starting with Ronald Reagan and now with MAGA. Slowly taking over the systems and eroding trust, safety nets, education, and causing real pain, and blaming it on the Democrats. Watching what the EU has done in Europe is remarkable, and hopefully it can continue to serve its people.

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                          @RegGuy @benroyce @richlv @paranormal_distribution@fosstodon.org @EUCommission reagan used to MAGA thing first

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @jtb @phl @EUCommission

                            of hypercriticism

                            it's not right to disrespect. unless you are disrespecting the disrespectful

                            it's not right to be intolerant. unless you are intolerant of intolerance

                            and it's not right to be hypercritical. unless you are hypercritical of hypercriticism

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                            @benroyce @phl @EUCommission Gee wizz, all I said was they are unelected. Why don't you direct your energy at your own fellow citizens?

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                              @benroyce @jtb @EUCommission Sure, it's the elected heads of states, and in the other council the ministers appointed by said elected heads of states, but that's just way too many layers — I don't think we can say we have any say in the matter.

                              Would you say that you, under any US president, have any kind of influence over who your Secretaries are and what they represent? And what they'd represent in an international formation with other Secretaries/Ministers?

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                              @phl @jtb @EUCommission

                              yes i do. i vote for the president, who appoints the secretaries

                              i would fancy another system where we also elect the secretaries, there are pluses and minuses to that. it's worth looking into

                              but what i wouldn't do is shout at the social media account of a us bureaucrat to achieve that, because it's pointless. unless i was more interested in just venting online rather than putting the actual work in to achieve that

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @phl @jtb @EUCommission

                                yes i do. i vote for the president, who appoints the secretaries

                                i would fancy another system where we also elect the secretaries, there are pluses and minuses to that. it's worth looking into

                                but what i wouldn't do is shout at the social media account of a us bureaucrat to achieve that, because it's pointless. unless i was more interested in just venting online rather than putting the actual work in to achieve that

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                                @benroyce @phl @EUCommission I don't actually live in the EU. The UK left the EU. Job done.

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                                • phl@mastodon.socialP phl@mastodon.social

                                  @benroyce @jtb @EUCommission Can you call your congresspeople or senators (cf. representatives), or can you call your Secretary (cf. Minister)? I'm pretty sure even in a relatively less insane country you can the former but not the latter.

                                  As such you can't possibly put in "real work" to influence them. You can, however, pressure your reps, who are in Parliament (national or EU), who you can hope they'll take into account your pressure when they vote.

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                                  @phl @jtb @EUCommission

                                  or even better, use this topic as your voting criteria when you select your reps

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @jtb @phl @EUCommission

                                    hypercritical voices online serve no political purpose. they only serve the ego of the person doing the hypercriticism

                                    no understanding of doing the work. just standing on perfectionism and shouting demands

                                    this fosters disappointment, disengagement, alienation. feeding the right

                                    it's a psyop

                                    from entitled people. with no idea how precarious the foundations they stand on are

                                    again, i am warning you as an american

                                    go ahead and ignore me. and learn the hard way

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                                    @benroyce @jtb @EUCommission The disappointment comes in the repeated actions of the Commission, and not from any kind of psyop I'm afraid.

                                    Emphatically: What you see in most of the comments isn't some anti-EU sentiment fueled by (typically Russia backed) far-right dolts.

                                    It is criticism on the repeated approaches, that one particular, *hard to interact with*, very removed from the People, part of the system is making.

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                                    • jtb@toot.walesJ jtb@toot.wales

                                      @benroyce @phl @EUCommission I don't actually live in the EU. The UK left the EU. Job done.

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                                      @jtb @phl @EUCommission

                                      so then we're both deranged, as we're both butting into eu politics we have no real right to comment on

                                      the difference being i am warning about the perfectionist hypercriticism i see, where it leads, a warning from the american experience

                                      and you are engaging in it

                                      so that certainly places you at a worse position than me

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @phl @jtb @EUCommission

                                        or even better, use this topic as your voting criteria when you select your reps

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                                        @benroyce @jtb So we do, every 5 years, and many of them have indeed been voting against many of the EC's attempts (e.g. chat control), which led to them (the unelected, uninfluenceable EC) to just retry later, because they understand consent about as much as Microsoft does.

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @jtb @phl @EUCommission

                                          so then we're both deranged, as we're both butting into eu politics we have no real right to comment on

                                          the difference being i am warning about the perfectionist hypercriticism i see, where it leads, a warning from the american experience

                                          and you are engaging in it

                                          so that certainly places you at a worse position than me

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                                          @benroyce @phl @EUCommission Well that must feel good for you, to be in a better position than I am.

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