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  • jtb@toot.walesJ jtb@toot.wales

    @benroyce @EUCommission I see you are an expert.

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    @jtb @EUCommission

    an expert at watching democracy being destroyed yes, and i recognize the role of hypercritical entitled voices like yours in achieving that, yes

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @jtb @EUCommission

      an expert at watching democracy being destroyed yes, and i recognize the role of hypercritical entitled voices like yours in achieving that, yes

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      @benroyce @EUCommission Why did you call me 'entitled'?

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @jtb @EUCommission

        american here

        what the heck are you talking about?

        i mean, i know. i understand exactly what you represent

        troll better if you're going to troll like this

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        @benroyce @jtb @EUCommission jtb is correct in that the Commission is unelected — we only directly elect the representatives in Parliament; and the members of the European Council and Council of the European Union, inasmuch as we have direct influence on our heads of state and ministers. (neither is to be confused with the Council of Europe; I wish the EU changed the name of both). We the citizens have practically zero control over the Commission.

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        • jtb@toot.walesJ jtb@toot.wales

          @benroyce @EUCommission Why did you call me 'entitled'?

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          @jtb @EUCommission

          entitlement is not only financial. there is also social entitlement

          someone who loudly demands perfect right now, with absolutely zero ability to understand what it takes to work towards better. you don't do the work, what you do is bellyache and call that "work." toxic idealism, often a thinly veiled right wing cosplay troll. or, you are genuinely as you are, and just this authentically clueless and entitled

          voices like yours helped the usa become as it is today

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @jtb @EUCommission

            entitlement is not only financial. there is also social entitlement

            someone who loudly demands perfect right now, with absolutely zero ability to understand what it takes to work towards better. you don't do the work, what you do is bellyache and call that "work." toxic idealism, often a thinly veiled right wing cosplay troll. or, you are genuinely as you are, and just this authentically clueless and entitled

            voices like yours helped the usa become as it is today

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            @benroyce @EUCommission Your quick descent into ad hominem betrays the lack of substance in your arguments.

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            • phl@mastodon.socialP phl@mastodon.social

              @benroyce @jtb @EUCommission jtb is correct in that the Commission is unelected — we only directly elect the representatives in Parliament; and the members of the European Council and Council of the European Union, inasmuch as we have direct influence on our heads of state and ministers. (neither is to be confused with the Council of Europe; I wish the EU changed the name of both). We the citizens have practically zero control over the Commission.

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              @phl @jtb @EUCommission

              right: they are appointed by people you elect

              so... 🤷

              look, criticize all you want. demand better. but work for it, don't just screech online

              take it from this american: toxic idealist entitled demands don't achieve anything, and are often a right wing cosplay to redirect attention

              the kind of replies i see under the top account i always recognize as the sort of hypercritical perfectionism that led the usa to where it is today

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              • jtb@toot.walesJ jtb@toot.wales

                @benroyce @EUCommission Your quick descent into ad hominem betrays the lack of substance in your arguments.

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                @jtb @EUCommission

                sure, dismiss me, dismiss my words. on any rationale you desire

                you won't heed my warning, ok

                learn what us americans know the hard way then

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @phl @jtb @EUCommission

                  right: they are appointed by people you elect

                  so... 🤷

                  look, criticize all you want. demand better. but work for it, don't just screech online

                  take it from this american: toxic idealist entitled demands don't achieve anything, and are often a right wing cosplay to redirect attention

                  the kind of replies i see under the top account i always recognize as the sort of hypercritical perfectionism that led the usa to where it is today

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                  @benroyce @phl @EUCommission I think criticizing government is perfectly acceptable in a democracy. It's what the press do all the time.

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @phl @jtb @EUCommission

                    right: they are appointed by people you elect

                    so... 🤷

                    look, criticize all you want. demand better. but work for it, don't just screech online

                    take it from this american: toxic idealist entitled demands don't achieve anything, and are often a right wing cosplay to redirect attention

                    the kind of replies i see under the top account i always recognize as the sort of hypercritical perfectionism that led the usa to where it is today

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                    @benroyce @jtb @EUCommission I'm pretty sure their re-re-re-reattempting to implement chat control, their folding to the US, US Big Tech surveillance companies, and to the AI fomo is much, much more dangerous to our Europe and to our democracy, than the "entitled screeching" of citizens rightfully concerned about the Commission — over which, I repeat, we have no direct control or influence — doing things that go against us as citizens.

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @richlv @paranormal_distribution@fosstodon.org @EUCommission

                      as an american i'm looking at the collection of thinly veiled right wing trolls and hypercritical toxic idealists responding here

                      and i recognize it well

                      because it was these social media voices that helped kill the usa

                      people don't understand what they have until they lose it

                      all they seem to have is an extreme sense of entitlement to *demand* perfect now. and little understanding of what it takes to *work* towards better

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                      @benroyce @richlv @paranormal_distribution@fosstodon.org @EUCommission An example of how to achieve one's goals is a study in how the GOP destroyed America in 45 years. Starting with Ronald Reagan and now with MAGA. Slowly taking over the systems and eroding trust, safety nets, education, and causing real pain, and blaming it on the Democrats. Watching what the EU has done in Europe is remarkable, and hopefully it can continue to serve its people.

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @jtb @EUCommission

                        sure, dismiss me, dismiss my words. on any rationale you desire

                        you won't heed my warning, ok

                        learn what us americans know the hard way then

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                        @benroyce @EUCommission Mostly you are calling me names. I have no idea what I am supposed to be learning from you.

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                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                          Nearly three-quarters (72%) of citizens agree: our union brings real benefits. 🇪🇺

                          The results of our Eurobarometer survey are out:

                          🔹 Trust in the EU to protect democracy is up
                          🔹Protecting democracy is your #1 reason for trusting us
                          🔹74% support the euro
                          🔹60% are optimistic about the EU’s future

                          We’re tackling your top concerns, from cost of living to global security, head on.

                          The EU has your back.

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                          @EUCommission I love watching poorly socialised men (shush, you know it) beg for attention under each Eurobarometer post. 😏

                          Meanwhile, I know who the 🇪🇺 prime mover of being full of shit is. My fellow EUropeans, telling the nice Eurostat caller things that make you feel good about yourself is cheap. Voting is the ultimate revealed preference. And you keep voting for majority majorly shit national governments that keep their knee on the EU's neck.

                          Happy #EuropeDay !

                          https://youtu.be/6q1NAWReBa4

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                          • jtb@toot.walesJ jtb@toot.wales

                            @benroyce @phl @EUCommission I think criticizing government is perfectly acceptable in a democracy. It's what the press do all the time.

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                            @jtb @phl @EUCommission

                            hypercritical voices online serve no political purpose. they only serve the ego of the person doing the hypercriticism

                            no understanding of doing the work. just standing on perfectionism and shouting demands

                            this fosters disappointment, disengagement, alienation. feeding the right

                            it's a psyop

                            from entitled people. with no idea how precarious the foundations they stand on are

                            again, i am warning you as an american

                            go ahead and ignore me. and learn the hard way

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @jtb @phl @EUCommission

                              hypercritical voices online serve no political purpose. they only serve the ego of the person doing the hypercriticism

                              no understanding of doing the work. just standing on perfectionism and shouting demands

                              this fosters disappointment, disengagement, alienation. feeding the right

                              it's a psyop

                              from entitled people. with no idea how precarious the foundations they stand on are

                              again, i am warning you as an american

                              go ahead and ignore me. and learn the hard way

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                              @benroyce @phl @EUCommission But you are an hypercritical voice online.

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                              • phl@mastodon.socialP phl@mastodon.social

                                @benroyce @jtb @EUCommission I'm pretty sure their re-re-re-reattempting to implement chat control, their folding to the US, US Big Tech surveillance companies, and to the AI fomo is much, much more dangerous to our Europe and to our democracy, than the "entitled screeching" of citizens rightfully concerned about the Commission — over which, I repeat, we have no direct control or influence — doing things that go against us as citizens.

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                                @phl @jtb @EUCommission

                                then put in the real work to defeat that obvious evil

                                don't shout at a social media account and smugly declare that you "put in the work"

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @phl @jtb @EUCommission

                                  then put in the real work to defeat that obvious evil

                                  don't shout at a social media account and smugly declare that you "put in the work"

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                                  @benroyce @phl @EUCommission I didn't declare that I "put in the work". Why is that in quotes? Who are you quoting?

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                                    @benroyce @jtb @EUCommission I'm pretty sure their re-re-re-reattempting to implement chat control, their folding to the US, US Big Tech surveillance companies, and to the AI fomo is much, much more dangerous to our Europe and to our democracy, than the "entitled screeching" of citizens rightfully concerned about the Commission — over which, I repeat, we have no direct control or influence — doing things that go against us as citizens.

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                                    @benroyce @jtb @EUCommission Sure, it's the elected heads of states, and in the other council the ministers appointed by said elected heads of states, but that's just way too many layers — I don't think we can say we have any say in the matter.

                                    Would you say that you, under any US president, have any kind of influence over who your Secretaries are and what they represent? And what they'd represent in an international formation with other Secretaries/Ministers?

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                                    • jtb@toot.walesJ jtb@toot.wales

                                      @benroyce @EUCommission Mostly you are calling me names. I have no idea what I am supposed to be learning from you.

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                                      @jtb @EUCommission

                                      don't worry about it

                                      i've seen this play out before

                                      people don't listen

                                      they put in "the work" of feeling smug by shouting at social media accounts, because they want perfect now

                                      hen when it comes time to do the real work to show up and achieve their goals, which is dreary because it involves slow movement towards better (perfect isn't on the menu), they are nowhere to be found, because there's no dopamine hit in that

                                      because their real goal is merely satiating their ego

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                                      • jtb@toot.walesJ jtb@toot.wales

                                        @EUCommission I don't agree. And you are unelected. Bring back democracy to the #EU !

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                                        Hi @jtb! The EU is a democracy and this means that you have the right to disagree with us. You can also help shape EU policies directly through tools like the European Citizens’ Initiative and European Citizens’ Panels.

                                        Furthermore, you are directly represented in the European Parliament, which is elected by EU citizens, while EU countries are represented in the Council and the European Council.

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                                        • jtb@toot.walesJ jtb@toot.wales

                                          @benroyce @phl @EUCommission I didn't declare that I "put in the work". Why is that in quotes? Who are you quoting?

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                                          @jtb @phl @EUCommission

                                          the quotes are to indicate there is no real work put in at all

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