Most major #media and #socialMedia in the #USA is now right wing controlled

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@Sassinake @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

right but americans are largely dissipated and ineffectual

asking them to get off their fucking asses and just vote is hard enough

what you're asking for is an even much larger ask

so i don't stand against what you say, i agree with it

general strike and vote, we ask for both

but don't post in such a way that some fools might conclude you're asking them to do a general strike instead of vote. you're not doing that, but be explicit about that

[adwright@mastodon.social]

@mjc0961 @benroyce @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

Because the Democrats still have no more control or ability to interfere than they did before.

What will happen in an election with such control on the line?

Historically if they were to win it, one or more Democrats, however many as needed, will veer right, voting to block such control until it is blocked.

They will be rewarded well for this.

Maybe with an overwhelming Democratic majority? Hasn't before but ever hopeful.

[eetschrijver@mastodon.social]

@Sassinake
So there's no class solidarity. Well, bummer. Now here's the question to American voters: are you going to sit on your bums until class solidarity somehow materializes or are you meanwhile going to fucking vote to give class solidarity more chances to come about? Because these guys sure as hell are not going to help that happen.
@benroyce @aadeacon

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@adwright @mjc0961 @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

well yeah, it's not going to be easy

but please don't posit statements like you are doing that in some minds might create a feeling of helplessness

i don't think that is your intention, you refer to hope by the end of your comment, but serve our current need to participate and vote by making sure to note "having said all of that, make sure you vote"

[sassinake@mastodon.social]

@benroyce @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

I mean, you have to vote. You have to at least participate in this farce, before you flip the table.

But elections happen in Russia and North Korea too...

[eetschrijver@mastodon.social]

@adwright
We can all dream up doomsday scenarios. I suggest we don't.
@mjc0961 @benroyce @aadeacon

[mast0d0nphan@beige.party]

@benroyce Never have I been made so jealous of a country until seeing this clip. God, imagine Obama, Biden, or even Kamala going on Fox Entertainment and doing this. Heads. Would. Roll/Explode.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@pascaline @Eetschrijver

i was once in a thread with someone from eastern europe who obviously did not have english as their first language and used the ableist r-word

i just told them this was an extremely vile word to use in english, and they edited their comment and thanked me

i didn't start piling on them with judgment and vitriol

we all should learn to try a little understanding first before bringing out the machine guns of judgment. of course, if they double down, bombs away

[adwright@mastodon.social]

@benroyce @mjc0961 @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

I posted only moments earlier how important it was to both vote in the primaries as well as the election saying that yes your lives really do hang on the results.

That is truth.

But it is also truth that this is not going to be that easy or that straight forward and the only result with any chance of success - a Democratic supermajority everywhere - is going to be a reach, even if it works.

[aadeacon@mastodon.social]

@benroyce @adwright @mjc0961 @Eetschrijver I will add a note here, I will not vote in the mid-terms because as a UK citizen I do not have a vote, even though the results are of paramount interest to the the non US world,

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@Sassinake @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

and hungary

and new york city

[scrimshaw9@mastodon.social]

@mjc0961 @benroyce @aadeacon @Eetschrijver Yeah! and how come when I find one rotten apple all other apples aren't rotten?

[sassinake@mastodon.social]

@Eetschrijver @benroyce @aadeacon

#VOTE, but #GeneralStrike too

#unite #EPluribusUnum

[pascaline@mastodon.nl]

@benroyce

Exactly!
That's such a great response. People sometimes really have no idea. It's best to first ask, and not ask while holding a weapon.

@Eetschrijver

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@adwright @mjc0961 @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

i can't argue with you. it's just that we're at cross purpose. you are talking forecasts and feasibility, i am trying to fire up the crowd

what i will do though is say that my purpose here is more constructive than yours at this particular moment. we're about to have primaries. we need to fire people up. you agree?

so please:

just try not to be such a debbie downer

please?

pretty pretty please with a cherry on top?

[eetschrijver@mastodon.social]

@benroyce
This, alas, is too true.
@pascaline

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@Sassinake @Eetschrijver @aadeacon

please edit your comment and add #vote

right? you feel where i'm coming from?

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@Sassinake @Eetschrijver @aadeacon

merci!

[sassinake@mastodon.social]

@benroyce @Eetschrijver @aadeacon

sure.

but didn't Marx say that Socialism could happen only after capitalism ran its course and people realized they either united, or died?

[unkx@icosahedron.website]

@benroyce @Eetschrijver I’ve been saying ”you can’t vote out fascism” for quite some time, and I’m more than happy to have been proven wrong at least this one time.

(Disclaimer: I don’t live in either Hungary or the US)