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Most major #media and #socialMedia in the #USA is now right wing controlled

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @Sassinake @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

    if you want repercussions, you will vote to get them

    if you think "but it won't matter, he'll cheat" you're lying and falling for mindless cynicism

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    @benroyce @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

    I think a #GeneralStrike will have a much bigger impact.

    But to have a successful strike, you have to have #ClassSolidarity

    Trump got in because of a divided class.

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    • aadeacon@mastodon.socialA aadeacon@mastodon.social

      @benroyce @Eetschrijver ""trump will cheat so what's the point of voting in the midterms"" Well if you do not vote, he will not need to cheat will he? If you vote and he cheats then there can be repercussions OK

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      #20

      @aadeacon
      IKR?
      @benroyce

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      • pascaline@mastodon.nlP pascaline@mastodon.nl

        @benroyce

        Ooo good one 😂

        @Eetschrijver

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        #21

        @pascaline @Eetschrijver

        well, i should worry about my blood pressure too, and i'm not

        i may be the first person on the fediverse to die mid comment responding to a troll 😅

        (i'm just kidding, i do mock trolls, but it comes from a place of being amused, not being distressed)

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        • mjc0961@mastodon.socialM mjc0961@mastodon.social

          @benroyce @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

          Also, if Trump is so good at cheating elections, how have Democrats been winning all these special elections since Trump took office? 🤔

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          #22

          @mjc0961
          Right? RIGHT?? The first step in winning is to FUCKING SHOW UP FOR THE GAME.
          @benroyce @aadeacon

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          • sassinake@mastodon.socialS sassinake@mastodon.social

            @benroyce @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

            I think a #GeneralStrike will have a much bigger impact.

            But to have a successful strike, you have to have #ClassSolidarity

            Trump got in because of a divided class.

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            @Sassinake @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

            right but americans are largely dissipated and ineffectual

            asking them to get off their fucking asses and just vote is hard enough

            what you're asking for is an even much larger ask

            so i don't stand against what you say, i agree with it

            general strike and vote, we ask for both

            but don't post in such a way that some fools might conclude you're asking them to do a general strike instead of vote. you're not doing that, but be explicit about that

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            • mjc0961@mastodon.socialM mjc0961@mastodon.social

              @benroyce @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

              Also, if Trump is so good at cheating elections, how have Democrats been winning all these special elections since Trump took office? 🤔

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              @mjc0961 @benroyce @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

              Because the Democrats still have no more control or ability to interfere than they did before.

              What will happen in an election with such control on the line?

              Historically if they were to win it, one or more Democrats, however many as needed, will veer right, voting to block such control until it is blocked.

              They will be rewarded well for this.

              Maybe with an overwhelming Democratic majority? Hasn't before but ever hopeful.

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              • sassinake@mastodon.socialS sassinake@mastodon.social

                @benroyce @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

                I think a #GeneralStrike will have a much bigger impact.

                But to have a successful strike, you have to have #ClassSolidarity

                Trump got in because of a divided class.

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                @Sassinake
                So there's no class solidarity. Well, bummer. Now here's the question to American voters: are you going to sit on your bums until class solidarity somehow materializes or are you meanwhile going to fucking vote to give class solidarity more chances to come about? Because these guys sure as hell are not going to help that happen.
                @benroyce @aadeacon

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                • adwright@mastodon.socialA adwright@mastodon.social

                  @mjc0961 @benroyce @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

                  Because the Democrats still have no more control or ability to interfere than they did before.

                  What will happen in an election with such control on the line?

                  Historically if they were to win it, one or more Democrats, however many as needed, will veer right, voting to block such control until it is blocked.

                  They will be rewarded well for this.

                  Maybe with an overwhelming Democratic majority? Hasn't before but ever hopeful.

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                  @adwright @mjc0961 @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

                  well yeah, it's not going to be easy

                  but please don't posit statements like you are doing that in some minds might create a feeling of helplessness

                  i don't think that is your intention, you refer to hope by the end of your comment, but serve our current need to participate and vote by making sure to note "having said all of that, make sure you vote"

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @Sassinake @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

                    right but americans are largely dissipated and ineffectual

                    asking them to get off their fucking asses and just vote is hard enough

                    what you're asking for is an even much larger ask

                    so i don't stand against what you say, i agree with it

                    general strike and vote, we ask for both

                    but don't post in such a way that some fools might conclude you're asking them to do a general strike instead of vote. you're not doing that, but be explicit about that

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                    @benroyce @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

                    I mean, you have to vote. You have to at least participate in this farce, before you flip the table.

                    But elections happen in Russia and North Korea too...

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                    • adwright@mastodon.socialA adwright@mastodon.social

                      @mjc0961 @benroyce @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

                      Because the Democrats still have no more control or ability to interfere than they did before.

                      What will happen in an election with such control on the line?

                      Historically if they were to win it, one or more Democrats, however many as needed, will veer right, voting to block such control until it is blocked.

                      They will be rewarded well for this.

                      Maybe with an overwhelming Democratic majority? Hasn't before but ever hopeful.

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                      #28

                      @adwright
                      We can all dream up doomsday scenarios. I suggest we don't.
                      @mjc0961 @benroyce @aadeacon

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        Most major #media and #socialMedia in the #USA is now right wing controlled

                        The #techbro angle is well understood, but traditional media, that used to be more balanced, being capitalist entities that were dying, plutocrats merely purchased them and put their goons on the managing editor desks

                        Watch this video of #Magyar going on #Hungary's version of #FoxNews (their state media) and announcing he is shutting them down

                        Now dream of that in the #US

                        To get there, you fucking #vote, idiots

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                        @benroyce Never have I been made so jealous of a country until seeing this clip. God, imagine Obama, Biden, or even Kamala going on Fox Entertainment and doing this. Heads. Would. Roll/Explode.

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                          @pascaline @Eetschrijver

                          i was once in a thread with someone from eastern europe who obviously did not have english as their first language and used the ableist r-word

                          i just told them this was an extremely vile word to use in english, and they edited their comment and thanked me

                          i didn't start piling on them with judgment and vitriol

                          we all should learn to try a little understanding first before bringing out the machine guns of judgment. of course, if they double down, bombs away

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @adwright @mjc0961 @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

                            well yeah, it's not going to be easy

                            but please don't posit statements like you are doing that in some minds might create a feeling of helplessness

                            i don't think that is your intention, you refer to hope by the end of your comment, but serve our current need to participate and vote by making sure to note "having said all of that, make sure you vote"

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                            @benroyce @mjc0961 @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

                            I posted only moments earlier how important it was to both vote in the primaries as well as the election saying that yes your lives really do hang on the results.

                            That is truth.

                            But it is also truth that this is not going to be that easy or that straight forward and the only result with any chance of success - a Democratic supermajority everywhere - is going to be a reach, even if it works.

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @adwright @mjc0961 @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

                              well yeah, it's not going to be easy

                              but please don't posit statements like you are doing that in some minds might create a feeling of helplessness

                              i don't think that is your intention, you refer to hope by the end of your comment, but serve our current need to participate and vote by making sure to note "having said all of that, make sure you vote"

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                              @benroyce @adwright @mjc0961 @Eetschrijver I will add a note here, I will not vote in the mid-terms because as a UK citizen I do not have a vote, even though the results are of paramount interest to the the non US world,

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                              • sassinake@mastodon.socialS sassinake@mastodon.social

                                @benroyce @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

                                I mean, you have to vote. You have to at least participate in this farce, before you flip the table.

                                But elections happen in Russia and North Korea too...

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                                @Sassinake @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

                                and hungary

                                and new york city

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                                • mjc0961@mastodon.socialM mjc0961@mastodon.social

                                  @benroyce @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

                                  Also, if Trump is so good at cheating elections, how have Democrats been winning all these special elections since Trump took office? 🤔

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                                  @mjc0961 @benroyce @aadeacon @Eetschrijver Yeah! and how come when I find one rotten apple all other apples aren't rotten?

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                                  • eetschrijver@mastodon.socialE eetschrijver@mastodon.social

                                    @Sassinake
                                    So there's no class solidarity. Well, bummer. Now here's the question to American voters: are you going to sit on your bums until class solidarity somehow materializes or are you meanwhile going to fucking vote to give class solidarity more chances to come about? Because these guys sure as hell are not going to help that happen.
                                    @benroyce @aadeacon

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                                    @Eetschrijver @benroyce @aadeacon

                                    #VOTE, but #GeneralStrike too

                                    #unite #EPluribusUnum

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @pascaline @Eetschrijver

                                      i was once in a thread with someone from eastern europe who obviously did not have english as their first language and used the ableist r-word

                                      i just told them this was an extremely vile word to use in english, and they edited their comment and thanked me

                                      i didn't start piling on them with judgment and vitriol

                                      we all should learn to try a little understanding first before bringing out the machine guns of judgment. of course, if they double down, bombs away

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                                      @benroyce

                                      Exactly! 💗
                                      That's such a great response. People sometimes really have no idea. It's best to first ask, and not ask while holding a weapon.

                                      @Eetschrijver

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                                      • adwright@mastodon.socialA adwright@mastodon.social

                                        @benroyce @mjc0961 @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

                                        I posted only moments earlier how important it was to both vote in the primaries as well as the election saying that yes your lives really do hang on the results.

                                        That is truth.

                                        But it is also truth that this is not going to be that easy or that straight forward and the only result with any chance of success - a Democratic supermajority everywhere - is going to be a reach, even if it works.

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                                        @adwright @mjc0961 @aadeacon @Eetschrijver

                                        i can't argue with you. it's just that we're at cross purpose. you are talking forecasts and feasibility, i am trying to fire up the crowd

                                        what i will do though is say that my purpose here is more constructive than yours at this particular moment. we're about to have primaries. we need to fire people up. you agree?

                                        so please:

                                        just try not to be such a debbie downer

                                        please?

                                        pretty pretty please with a cherry on top?

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @pascaline @Eetschrijver

                                          they're all over social media, including the fediverse

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                                          #38

                                          @benroyce
                                          This, alas, is too true.
                                          @pascaline

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