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  3. BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of 🇨🇦 ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes.

BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of 🇨🇦 ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes.

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  • openmediaorg@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
    openmediaorg@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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    BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of 🇨🇦 ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes.

    This should be our final alarm bell: we can have digital privacy or we can have legislation this broad and broken, not both!

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    Signal warns it would pull out of Canada if made to comply with lawful access bill

    Secure messaging service says it will not weaken its encryption, privacy safeguards for government

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    The Globe and Mail (www.theglobeandmail.com)

    mannanan@mas.toM really_idk@mastodon.socialR mokhtarstork@zirk.usM walruths@mastodon.socialW patatas@social.patatas.caP 10 Replies Last reply
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    • openmediaorg@mastodon.socialO openmediaorg@mastodon.social

      BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of 🇨🇦 ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes.

      This should be our final alarm bell: we can have digital privacy or we can have legislation this broad and broken, not both!

      Link Preview Image
      Signal warns it would pull out of Canada if made to comply with lawful access bill

      Secure messaging service says it will not weaken its encryption, privacy safeguards for government

      favicon

      The Globe and Mail (www.theglobeandmail.com)

      mannanan@mas.toM This user is from outside of this forum
      mannanan@mas.toM This user is from outside of this forum
      mannanan@mas.to
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      #2

      @OpenMediaOrg

      As long as Signal requires a phone number to use, your privacy is already compromised.

      really_idk@mastodon.socialR riotmuffin@ni.hil.istR misusecase@twit.socialM 3 Replies Last reply
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      • mannanan@mas.toM mannanan@mas.to

        @OpenMediaOrg

        As long as Signal requires a phone number to use, your privacy is already compromised.

        really_idk@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
        really_idk@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
        really_idk@mastodon.social
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        #3

        @Mannanan @OpenMediaOrg Signal doesn’t require a phone number.

        harib_murshidi@mastodon.socialH alextecplayz@techhub.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA really_idk@mastodon.socialR 4 Replies Last reply
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        • openmediaorg@mastodon.socialO openmediaorg@mastodon.social

          BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of 🇨🇦 ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes.

          This should be our final alarm bell: we can have digital privacy or we can have legislation this broad and broken, not both!

          Link Preview Image
          Signal warns it would pull out of Canada if made to comply with lawful access bill

          Secure messaging service says it will not weaken its encryption, privacy safeguards for government

          favicon

          The Globe and Mail (www.theglobeandmail.com)

          really_idk@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
          really_idk@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @OpenMediaOrg will Signal also geofence access to apk?

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          • openmediaorg@mastodon.socialO openmediaorg@mastodon.social

            BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of 🇨🇦 ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes.

            This should be our final alarm bell: we can have digital privacy or we can have legislation this broad and broken, not both!

            Link Preview Image
            Signal warns it would pull out of Canada if made to comply with lawful access bill

            Secure messaging service says it will not weaken its encryption, privacy safeguards for government

            favicon

            The Globe and Mail (www.theglobeandmail.com)

            mokhtarstork@zirk.usM This user is from outside of this forum
            mokhtarstork@zirk.usM This user is from outside of this forum
            mokhtarstork@zirk.us
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            #5

            @OpenMediaOrg What the reason behind this move by the Canadian government?

            mayintoronto@beige.partyM gokushrm@mastodon.socialG 2 Replies Last reply
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            • mannanan@mas.toM mannanan@mas.to

              @OpenMediaOrg

              As long as Signal requires a phone number to use, your privacy is already compromised.

              riotmuffin@ni.hil.istR This user is from outside of this forum
              riotmuffin@ni.hil.istR This user is from outside of this forum
              riotmuffin@ni.hil.ist
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              #6

              @Mannanan well that’s great news, because it doesn’t require a phone number anymore

              @OpenMediaOrg

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              • mokhtarstork@zirk.usM mokhtarstork@zirk.us

                @OpenMediaOrg What the reason behind this move by the Canadian government?

                mayintoronto@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
                mayintoronto@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @MokhtarStork @OpenMediaOrg The current federal government is really bought into the whole surveillance military industrial complex.

                snowyca@social.vivaldi.netS zazzoo@mstdn.caZ 2 Replies Last reply
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                • openmediaorg@mastodon.socialO openmediaorg@mastodon.social

                  BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of 🇨🇦 ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes.

                  This should be our final alarm bell: we can have digital privacy or we can have legislation this broad and broken, not both!

                  Link Preview Image
                  Signal warns it would pull out of Canada if made to comply with lawful access bill

                  Secure messaging service says it will not weaken its encryption, privacy safeguards for government

                  favicon

                  The Globe and Mail (www.theglobeandmail.com)

                  walruths@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                  walruths@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                  walruths@mastodon.social
                  wrote last edited by
                  #8

                  @OpenMediaOrg

                  Obligatory XMPP mention, awaiting regulatory response.

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                  • dansup@mastodon.socialD dansup@mastodon.social shared this topic
                  • mayintoronto@beige.partyM mayintoronto@beige.party

                    @MokhtarStork @OpenMediaOrg The current federal government is really bought into the whole surveillance military industrial complex.

                    snowyca@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
                    snowyca@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @mayintoronto @MokhtarStork @OpenMediaOrg

                    And Trump's Patriot Act.

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                    • openmediaorg@mastodon.socialO openmediaorg@mastodon.social

                      BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of 🇨🇦 ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes.

                      This should be our final alarm bell: we can have digital privacy or we can have legislation this broad and broken, not both!

                      Link Preview Image
                      Signal warns it would pull out of Canada if made to comply with lawful access bill

                      Secure messaging service says it will not weaken its encryption, privacy safeguards for government

                      favicon

                      The Globe and Mail (www.theglobeandmail.com)

                      patatas@social.patatas.caP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @OpenMediaOrg@mastodon.social kinda curious if @tailscale@hachyderm.io has also said anything about this - seems like it would be bad for their business but idk

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                      • mokhtarstork@zirk.usM mokhtarstork@zirk.us

                        @OpenMediaOrg What the reason behind this move by the Canadian government?

                        gokushrm@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                        gokushrm@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @MokhtarStork @OpenMediaOrg because they are stupid

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                        • mayintoronto@beige.partyM mayintoronto@beige.party

                          @MokhtarStork @OpenMediaOrg The current federal government is really bought into the whole surveillance military industrial complex.

                          zazzoo@mstdn.caZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @mayintoronto @MokhtarStork @OpenMediaOrg Apart from that, I have no idea what problem they're claiming to be solving. Usually crap like this is in response to something, but it seems like they just feel like it for no reason other than to do Orwell.

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                          • riotmuffin@ni.hil.istR riotmuffin@ni.hil.ist

                            @Mannanan well that’s great news, because it doesn’t require a phone number anymore

                            @OpenMediaOrg

                            yourgodsatan@mstdn.partyY This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            @riotmuffin

                            @Mannanan @OpenMediaOrg

                            Signal's official support page still seems to say that a phone number is required to register an account

                            Just a moment...

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                            (support.signal.org)

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                            • really_idk@mastodon.socialR really_idk@mastodon.social

                              @OpenMediaOrg will Signal also geofence access to apk?

                              wiredfire@mstdn.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @really_idk @OpenMediaOrg unlikely but I’d expect they *would* geofence the service. Essentially blocking their service from operating anywhere with a Canadian IP. And yes you’d likely be able to work around that with a decent VPN, but that’s not what non-technical folk are likely to do.

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                              • openmediaorg@mastodon.socialO openmediaorg@mastodon.social

                                BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of 🇨🇦 ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes.

                                This should be our final alarm bell: we can have digital privacy or we can have legislation this broad and broken, not both!

                                Link Preview Image
                                Signal warns it would pull out of Canada if made to comply with lawful access bill

                                Secure messaging service says it will not weaken its encryption, privacy safeguards for government

                                favicon

                                The Globe and Mail (www.theglobeandmail.com)

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                                @OpenMediaOrg this is just #Signal chasing #Clout because they never left a juristiction to this point. Neither "P.R." #China nor #Russia nor #KSA nor Iran, and all of those demand even more #BulkAccess…

                                - Because Signal is a #HoneyPot collecting #PII like the #PhoneNumbers of their users.

                                - The only reason it's not beibg shut down like #EncroChat, #SkyECC and others is because it's the same Modi Operandi as #ANØM aka. #OperationIronside aka. #OperationTrøjanShield.

                                If the #Trump Regime of the #USA disliked Signal, it could kill it with a single EO due to it's hard #LockIn on #aws and lack of decentralization!

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                                • really_idk@mastodon.socialR really_idk@mastodon.social

                                  @Mannanan @OpenMediaOrg Signal doesn’t require a phone number.

                                  harib_murshidi@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  harib_murshidi@mastodon.social
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                                  #16

                                  @really_idk @Mannanan @OpenMediaOrg Huh ?! When did that happen ??! You sign up on the app using your mobike phone number (as in Whatscrapp, Telegram) unlike other alternatives like Jami or Session 🤔

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                                  • mannanan@mas.toM mannanan@mas.to

                                    @OpenMediaOrg

                                    As long as Signal requires a phone number to use, your privacy is already compromised.

                                    misusecase@twit.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @Mannanan @OpenMediaOrg This is such a tired, thought-terminating cliche that I’ve seen a hundred times on here.

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                                    • kkarhan@c.imK kkarhan@c.im

                                      @OpenMediaOrg this is just #Signal chasing #Clout because they never left a juristiction to this point. Neither "P.R." #China nor #Russia nor #KSA nor Iran, and all of those demand even more #BulkAccess…

                                      - Because Signal is a #HoneyPot collecting #PII like the #PhoneNumbers of their users.

                                      - The only reason it's not beibg shut down like #EncroChat, #SkyECC and others is because it's the same Modi Operandi as #ANØM aka. #OperationIronside aka. #OperationTrøjanShield.

                                      If the #Trump Regime of the #USA disliked Signal, it could kill it with a single EO due to it's hard #LockIn on #aws and lack of decentralization!

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                                      @kkarhan @OpenMediaOrg
                                      You really like hashtags don’t you?
                                      But yeah, we really need to escape these centralised lock-in platforms for decentralised options. I’m personally rooting for Matrix as my main alternative. SimpleX is also a good option in my opinion, as of today. They seem to allow decentralisation too, unlike Signal.

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                                      • really_idk@mastodon.socialR really_idk@mastodon.social

                                        @Mannanan @OpenMediaOrg Signal doesn’t require a phone number.

                                        alextecplayz@techhub.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @really_idk @Mannanan @OpenMediaOrg it does require a phone number, you need one to register and/or move your Signal account.

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                                        • openmediaorg@mastodon.socialO openmediaorg@mastodon.social

                                          BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of 🇨🇦 ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes.

                                          This should be our final alarm bell: we can have digital privacy or we can have legislation this broad and broken, not both!

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          Signal warns it would pull out of Canada if made to comply with lawful access bill

                                          Secure messaging service says it will not weaken its encryption, privacy safeguards for government

                                          favicon

                                          The Globe and Mail (www.theglobeandmail.com)

                                          zed@mstdn.partyZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @OpenMediaOrg bad on Canada, but also bad on signal for being built in a way where they can decide which countries get access. It should run on an open source backend that can be run on your own servers if you like.

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