<![CDATA[BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes.]]>BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into without large changes.

This should be our final alarm bell: we can have digital privacy or we can have legislation this broad and broken, not both!

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Secure messaging service says it will not weaken its encryption, privacy safeguards for government

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/c3bfb279-b84d-40a6-95d5-298978a9cdcf/breaking-signal-the-1-privacy-protecting-messaging-app-many-of-us-rely-on-is-saying-they-will-pull-out-of-entirely-if-they-re-scoped-into-billc22-without-large-changes.RSS for NodeThu, 14 May 2026 22:32:26 GMTThu, 14 May 2026 00:53:32 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 17:34:58 GMT]]>@landelare @wiredfire @really_idk @OpenMediaOrg @mollyim I understand the sentiment, I was just trying to solve the practical problem. I have argued with them for years about the number thing, but there didn't used to be any workaround at all. Now there is so while I want them to finish the job, I at least can show people how to set up and still preserve their privacy.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://retrogaming.social/users/reflex/statuses/116574132530426219https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://retrogaming.social/users/reflex/statuses/116574132530426219Thu, 14 May 2026 17:34:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 17:33:25 GMT]]>@reflex @wiredfire @really_idk @OpenMediaOrg @mollyim The numbers being forced. I would not mind at all if they were just an option. Discord of all things does this better, which is ridiculous.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/landelare/statuses/116574126425542359https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/landelare/statuses/116574126425542359Thu, 14 May 2026 17:33:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 17:31:45 GMT]]>For any new followers who received this post, please know there's a one click option for you to tell your MP to vote NO on !
https://www.openmedia.org/StopC22-mast

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/OpenMediaOrg/statuses/116574119894960382https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/OpenMediaOrg/statuses/116574119894960382Thu, 14 May 2026 17:31:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 17:24:26 GMT]]>@landelare @wiredfire @really_idk @OpenMediaOrg @mollyim Okay, well, I don't know what your issue is with the existence of numbers, I made apparently the poor assumption it was a privacy issue, apparently not.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://retrogaming.social/users/reflex/statuses/116574091103807706https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://retrogaming.social/users/reflex/statuses/116574091103807706Thu, 14 May 2026 17:24:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 17:23:12 GMT]]>@reflex @wiredfire @really_idk @OpenMediaOrg @mollyim Still a phone number.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/landelare/statuses/116574086246481031https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/landelare/statuses/116574086246481031Thu, 14 May 2026 17:23:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 17:22:39 GMT]]>@landelare @wiredfire @really_idk @OpenMediaOrg @mollyim I'm not sure what you mean. There are lots of ways to grab a temporary phone number that isn't linked to you personally. Google hands them out, you can create them with an anon account, use it to register, add a username, ditch the account.

Clunky, but it works.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://retrogaming.social/users/reflex/statuses/116574084077155653https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://retrogaming.social/users/reflex/statuses/116574084077155653Thu, 14 May 2026 17:22:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 17:21:28 GMT]]>@reflex @wiredfire @really_idk @OpenMediaOrg @mollyim That's a "no" then.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/landelare/statuses/116574079459185990https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/landelare/statuses/116574079459185990Thu, 14 May 2026 17:21:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 17:21:20 GMT]]>@wiredfire @reflex @really_idk @OpenMediaOrg @mollyim If you'll excuse me, I'll believe it if/when I see it. An unimplemented draft is worthless.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/landelare/statuses/116574078902460342https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/landelare/statuses/116574078902460342Thu, 14 May 2026 17:21:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 17:20:58 GMT]]>@landelare @wiredfire @really_idk @OpenMediaOrg @mollyim You can set up an account with a virtual phone number and then let that number lapse: https://www.techbout.com/use-signal-without-phone-number-sim-61328/

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://retrogaming.social/users/reflex/statuses/116574077462316343https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://retrogaming.social/users/reflex/statuses/116574077462316343Thu, 14 May 2026 17:20:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 17:20:21 GMT]]>@landelare @reflex @really_idk @OpenMediaOrg @mollyim keep an eye on Molly, They’re working on just that

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Specifications and project-wide documentation for Flatline. - flatline-docs/drafts/phone-less-registration.md at main Β· mollyim/flatline-docs

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/wiredfire/statuses/116574075084888432https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/wiredfire/statuses/116574075084888432Thu, 14 May 2026 17:20:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 17:19:22 GMT]]>@reflex @wiredfire @really_idk @OpenMediaOrg @mollyim I'm not aware of any method to register with a username and no phone number, and so far, I have no reason to believe that one exists. I'd be delighted to be proven wrong.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/landelare/statuses/116574071189738931https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/landelare/statuses/116574071189738931Thu, 14 May 2026 17:19:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 17:18:23 GMT]]>@landelare @wiredfire @really_idk @OpenMediaOrg @mollyim It uses your existing Signal account, it's not an alternative as it connects to their network. If your account is set up with a username, it'll work with Molly.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://retrogaming.social/users/reflex/statuses/116574067340893559https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://retrogaming.social/users/reflex/statuses/116574067340893559Thu, 14 May 2026 17:18:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 17:17:41 GMT]]>@reflex @wiredfire @really_idk @OpenMediaOrg @mollyim If it forces me to provide my phone number, I'm just as interested in it as the regular Signal.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/landelare/statuses/116574064554935922https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/landelare/statuses/116574064554935922Thu, 14 May 2026 17:17:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 16:23:04 GMT]]>@kkarhan @OpenMediaOrg @monocles
Yeah, kinda getting annoyed at, like every single company it seems, releasing their own crypto currency. Like what??

And LoRa is a bit weird yeah, and the transceivers could in theory be yet another security risk on your phone.

But hopefully things works out, and have a great day!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/ap/users/116450364351387379/statuses/116573849804117957https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/ap/users/116450364351387379/statuses/116573849804117957Thu, 14 May 2026 16:23:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 16:12:47 GMT]]>@reflex @landelare @really_idk @OpenMediaOrg @mollyim primary device is an iPhone by I do use Molly to have my Signal linked to an Android tablet. Excellent app, well recommended.

Caveat of course that strictly speaking using it violates Signal’s ToS, but I’m not aware of that ever being actioned by them.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/wiredfire/statuses/116573809402624990https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/wiredfire/statuses/116573809402624990Thu, 14 May 2026 16:12:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 15:15:21 GMT]]>Putting a CW on the post I'm replying to. Signal says it will pull out of Canada entirely if scoped into Bill C22 without larhe changes.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://meemu.org/users/Bel_tamtu/statuses/116573583529293861https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://meemu.org/users/Bel_tamtu/statuses/116573583529293861Thu, 14 May 2026 15:15:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 15:10:14 GMT]]>I was corrected - you do still require number to register. Thank you all to the people who spoke up.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116570379353479161/statuses/116573563405861309https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116570379353479161/statuses/116573563405861309Thu, 14 May 2026 15:10:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 14:35:42 GMT]]>@wiredfire @landelare @really_idk @OpenMediaOrg @mollyim is an alternative Android client with additional mitigations, if you are on Android, you should consider switching.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://retrogaming.social/users/reflex/statuses/116573427662373636https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://retrogaming.social/users/reflex/statuses/116573427662373636Thu, 14 May 2026 14:35:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 13:22:51 GMT]]>@landelare @really_idk @OpenMediaOrg I suspect Signal would actually welcome in your VPN. They’re not out to attack users here and if a user can give Signal plausible deniability of their location via a VPN I strongly suspect they’ll go with it. I may well be disproven as well of course!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/wiredfire/statuses/116573141179349410https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/wiredfire/statuses/116573141179349410Thu, 14 May 2026 13:22:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 12:01:47 GMT]]>@OpenMediaOrg The current legislation can’t even successfully criminalize piracy; the issue here is that Canadians, like everyone else, rely on a centralized E2EE messenger. We can and should deploy the infrastructure we lack.

https://cwtch.im

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://gotosocial.social/users/oceane/statuses/01KRK5THGPH0VP69BS7D3QYJS0https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://gotosocial.social/users/oceane/statuses/01KRK5THGPH0VP69BS7D3QYJS0Thu, 14 May 2026 12:01:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 11:00:56 GMT]]>@neutronstar @OpenMediaOrg @monocles I think isn't bad. It's sad that is kinda patented but at least there is a vibrant ecosystem around it and more of a "carrot licensing" than "stick licensing" approach from what I can see...

- In that regard, it's just a more modern alternative to proprietary modules on bands.

But it again needs "yet another transciever" and dedicaded hardware (even if it's just some tiny IC) and it's nature of "burst" messaging in the vicinity really restricts it's use-cases.

- At best I'd consider it a faster & cheaper alternative to Iridium Short Burst Data when you only need coverage on a few fixed sites but neither WiFi nor Bluetooth are an option but you need more than a few hundred bytes at 2400 bit/s, avoiding overcrowded 2,4 GHz and being more generous in message size than ...

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://c.im/ap/users/116307071344437495/statuses/116572583150120392https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://c.im/ap/users/116307071344437495/statuses/116572583150120392Thu, 14 May 2026 11:00:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 10:55:49 GMT]]>@neutronstar @OpenMediaOrg In the end paying for services like @monocles is kinda necessary if one doesn't want to be sold out.

- That's why I don't consider a sustainable option, given their extremely expensive architecture.

So it's no surprise they implemented a - named !

- Which is not only so bad that even holders can't buy it, but also just unnecessary that LITERALLY NOONE ASKED FOR!

Not to mention MobileCoin had deep ties with ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MobileCoin#Affiliations_with_FTX

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://c.im/ap/users/116307071344437495/statuses/116572563039357502https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://c.im/ap/users/116307071344437495/statuses/116572563039357502Thu, 14 May 2026 10:55:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 10:51:34 GMT]]>@wiredfire @really_idk @OpenMediaOrg They'll have your Canadian phone number on the account and laugh in the face of your VPN.

I'd be delighted to be disproven. Anyone claiming that Signal doesn't require phone numbers anymore, please feel free to link their instructions on how to register without a phone number.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/landelare/statuses/116572546269822751https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/landelare/statuses/116572546269822751Thu, 14 May 2026 10:51:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to BREAKING: Signal, the #1 privacy protecting messaging app many of us rely on, is saying they will pull out of πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ ENTIRELY if they're scoped into #BillC22 without large changes. on Thu, 14 May 2026 10:39:59 GMT]]>@kkarhan @OpenMediaOrg @monocles @torproject @guardianproject
Yeah, it’s fair if people pay for the services they use, especially since it incentivises not selling people’s data or metadata. But I must add to this by saying that I think people should have the right to privacy, even if they’re financially constrained.

And agreed, there is no project to date that’s more effective at providing a higher level of privacy than the tor network.

There are also options like Meshtastic that might prove itself to be a valuable tool in due time. Especially for close quarter communication and those edge case scenarios. Best let these projects be separate however, I think so at least.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/ap/users/116450364351387379/statuses/116572500726575749https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/ap/users/116450364351387379/statuses/116572500726575749Thu, 14 May 2026 10:39:59 GMT