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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
    tante@tldr.nettime.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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    RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

    Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
    Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

    Strategic genius.

    bms48@mastodon.socialB fragarach@social.vivaldi.netF lu_leipzig@troet.cafeL spdrnl@sigmoid.socialS casandro@f-ckendehoelle.deC 24 Replies Last reply
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    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

      RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

      Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
      Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

      Strategic genius.

      bms48@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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      @tante Oops! Looks like it's the end of the road for Shuttleworth's merry band of tricksters. I mean, I only run Ubuntu on certain boxes out of certain feature inertia, like CUDA and IEEE 1588 hardware timestamping (I have yet to enable my TimeNIC's 1PPS SMA I/Os and it requires driver modifications specific to a particular Ubuntu version). As soon as the features are shipped elsewhere, it gets #shitcanned

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      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

        RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

        Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
        Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

        Strategic genius.

        fragarach@social.vivaldi.netF This user is from outside of this forum
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        @tante

        So, this means I have to rethink my planned move to Zorin OS, since it's based on Ubuntu?

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        • fragarach@social.vivaldi.netF fragarach@social.vivaldi.net

          @tante

          So, this means I have to rethink my planned move to Zorin OS, since it's based on Ubuntu?

          tante@tldr.nettime.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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          @Fragarach gotta ask the Zorin folks. Maybe they'll keep their system clean?

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          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

            RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

            Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
            Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

            Strategic genius.

            lu_leipzig@troet.cafeL This user is from outside of this forum
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            @tante Canonical doing what it does best, adding stuff that noone asked for. Not surprised at all that they're going down the AI route.

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            • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

              RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

              Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
              Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

              Strategic genius.

              spdrnl@sigmoid.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              @tante Oof! PopOS?

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              • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                @Fragarach gotta ask the Zorin folks. Maybe they'll keep their system clean?

                smilingdemon@mastodon.artS This user is from outside of this forum
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                @tante @Fragarach the saving grace is most of the dedicated "AI" and "agentic" features are going to be Snaps which basically everyone else ignores. So fingers crossed it will be fairly Ubuntu contained.

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                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                  RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                  Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                  Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                  Strategic genius.

                  casandro@f-ckendehoelle.deC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @tante Well to be honest, with Ubuntu it has been a gradual development for many years now.

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                  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                    RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                    Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                    Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                    Strategic genius.

                    jcnotwit@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @tante Have the Mint team released a statement about how they're going to handle this? My search-fu is failing me.

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                    • spdrnl@sigmoid.socialS spdrnl@sigmoid.social

                      @tante Oof! PopOS?

                      rstub@digitalcourage.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @spdrnl Same here. Would be interesting to hear from @pop_os_official what their plans are.
                      @tante

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                      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                        RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                        Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                        Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                        Strategic genius.

                        grumpydad@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @tante Since it seems to be happening all over the place, you kind of have to wonder: Who the hell asked for all this?

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                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                          RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                          Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                          Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                          Strategic genius.

                          stege@rollenspiel.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @tante i wonder if this does also applies for Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu. Because i avoided the main ubuntu already.

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                          • stege@rollenspiel.socialS stege@rollenspiel.social

                            @tante i wonder if this does also applies for Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu. Because i avoided the main ubuntu already.

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                            @Stege probably.

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                            • rstub@digitalcourage.socialR rstub@digitalcourage.social

                              @spdrnl Same here. Would be interesting to hear from @pop_os_official what their plans are.
                              @tante

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                              @rstub @pop_os_official @tante System76 is doing a great job. I'll be looking into getting a laptop of theirs when the time comes.

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                              • grumpydad@infosec.exchangeG grumpydad@infosec.exchange

                                @tante Since it seems to be happening all over the place, you kind of have to wonder: Who the hell asked for all this?

                                n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @grumpydad @tante

                                Same folks who asked for nuclear strike resilient data network in the 1970s

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                                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                  RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                                  Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                                  Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                                  Strategic genius.

                                  lrhodes@merveilles.townL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @tante A recurring pattern I see is of FOSS devs getting drawn into LLMs in limited situations on their own time (Segar: "I've found LLMs to be an excellent learning tool"), and rapidly scaling up integration so that they're soon unavoidable — excuse me: "implicit" — in the projects they maintain.

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                                  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                    RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                                    Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                                    Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                                    Strategic genius.

                                    carepackage17@mastodon.gamedev.placeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @tante oof, same. Guess it's time to move all my data someplace safe and nuke that OS partition. Fucking hell.

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                                    • jcnotwit@mastodon.socialJ jcnotwit@mastodon.social

                                      @tante Have the Mint team released a statement about how they're going to handle this? My search-fu is failing me.

                                      fedops@fosstodon.orgF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @jcnotwit no idea but their thoughts behind the Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) all of a sudden seem quite timely:

                                      "Its goal is to ensure Linux Mint can continue to deliver the same user experience if Ubuntu was ever to disappear. "

                                      @tante

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      Download LMDE 7 - Linux Mint

                                      Linux Mint is an elegant, easy to use, up to date and comfortable desktop operating system.

                                      favicon

                                      (www.linuxmint.com)

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                                        @iain @tante When they turn to vibecoding, sure. But integrating AI features into a project doesn't decrease workload — it's a new feature that has to be deployed and maintained. That's more work, not less.

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                                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                          RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                                          Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                                          Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                                          Strategic genius.

                                          turre@mementomori.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @tante
                                          I wish I could say I'm surprised, but I'm mostly surprised it took them this long.

                                          It's like the whole damn IT world decided they're lemmings and suddenly need to jump off that AI cliff.

                                          Hmm. There would probably be quite some positives in that outcome. But this period before they reach the cliff is horrible to everybody.

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