Can we please not with all the ableist language I'm seeing around discussing AI (and anything, really)?
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Lunatic, insane, stupid, dumb, retarded, moron, idiot, imbecile, cretin, crazy, mad, nuts.
Any word that relates to low intelligence, smartness, or IQ.
Seriously, this is Nazi shit; you are literally doing the work of fascists in using language like this.
I appreciate that you might not have known, especially if English is not your first language and you weren't aware of the history of these words and their use as insults, but NOW YOU DO KNOW.
And now you can stop.
Look, before you slide into my replies giving me all kinds of tired, over-used, and entirely anticipated arguments for why you should be allowed to say the ableist words, actually - don't.
Don't bother. I've heard it all before, and your arguments - every single one of them - are full of holes and nonsensical, I can refute you all day. This is not my first 'but I want to use the bad words' rodeo.
If you want to do the work of fascism and support eugenics, fine, but keep it out of my mentions.
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Look, before you slide into my replies giving me all kinds of tired, over-used, and entirely anticipated arguments for why you should be allowed to say the ableist words, actually - don't.
Don't bother. I've heard it all before, and your arguments - every single one of them - are full of holes and nonsensical, I can refute you all day. This is not my first 'but I want to use the bad words' rodeo.
If you want to do the work of fascism and support eugenics, fine, but keep it out of my mentions.
Also I'll block you from mastodon.art and then you won't be able to see the pretty art.
You don't deserve the pretty art, anyway, and all the disabled, neurodiverse people on this instance are better off without you.
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@unkx Also, penty of Nazis have a high IQ or are smart or have high intelligence, however you want to describe it. IQ itself is a fascist tool, but that's a different argument. You're saying 'asshole' is more muddled in meaning, while choosing to use a non-specific and irrelevant word to describe someone. If Bob's a nazi, call him a nazi. His intellect is entirely irrelevant.
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@Curator @saltywizard my flabber is gasted, and my heart is honoured with such piece of calligraphical art. I can't thank you enough for this, Curator, truly. (I'm not even joking, I'm truly touched by this.)
as the kids say nowadays: thanks to you I peaked, it's peak.
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@Curator @saltywizard my flabber is gasted, and my heart is honoured with such piece of calligraphical art. I can't thank you enough for this, Curator, truly. (I'm not even joking, I'm truly touched by this.)
as the kids say nowadays: thanks to you I peaked, it's peak.
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@terribletowelie @Curator @saltywizard this JUMPSCARE was uncalled for.
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Lunatic, insane, stupid, dumb, retarded, moron, idiot, imbecile, cretin, crazy, mad, nuts.
Any word that relates to low intelligence, smartness, or IQ.
Seriously, this is Nazi shit; you are literally doing the work of fascists in using language like this.
I appreciate that you might not have known, especially if English is not your first language and you weren't aware of the history of these words and their use as insults, but NOW YOU DO KNOW.
And now you can stop.
@Curator
TIL, thank you
I had sometimes used #2 (not towards a person, but to describe something happening), #3, #4, and #7,
but hadn't really given it much thought before that it would be ableist language.
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@Curator
TIL, thank you I had sometimes used #2 (not towards a person, but to describe something happening), #3, #4, and #7,
but hadn't really given it much thought before that it would be ableist language.
I suppose "crazy" would be considered part of the list, similar to #2? that's one I find myself tripping over sometimes and have tried to avoid. and when I grew up in the UK it'd be quite common to hear "mad" used in a similar way.
"that's crazy/mad"
Thinking about it, I struggle to find a word that I could use in such an example
But I will try! 
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I suppose "crazy" would be considered part of the list, similar to #2? that's one I find myself tripping over sometimes and have tried to avoid. and when I grew up in the UK it'd be quite common to hear "mad" used in a similar way.
"that's crazy/mad"
Thinking about it, I struggle to find a word that I could use in such an example
But I will try! @hejchristian Oh, yeah, crazy and mad are both candidates.
I use 'wild' where I'd previously have used words like that, it kinda conveys the same tone
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@hejchristian Oh, yeah, crazy and mad are both candidates.
I use 'wild' where I'd previously have used words like that, it kinda conveys the same tone
@Curator Wild! yeah that works
I was gonna say "that's nuts" but then... no, I'm fairly sure I've heard that used as a slur.Thanks again!
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@Curator Wild! yeah that works
I was gonna say "that's nuts" but then... no, I'm fairly sure I've heard that used as a slur.Thanks again!
️@hejchristian Heh, yeah, nuts is also a word used to describe people with mental health conditions
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@terribletowelie @Curator @cairobraga @saltywizard
Risky click of the day. That's on me, I shouldn't have clicked.
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@hejchristian Heh, yeah, nuts is also a word used to describe people with mental health conditions
The more I've thought about it the more words I am coming up with!
Deffo having a areWeTheBaddies.gif moment thinking back about how I used such words without thinking.
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The more I've thought about it the more words I am coming up with!
Deffo having a areWeTheBaddies.gif moment thinking back about how I used such words without thinking.
@hejchristian I very much appreciate that you're going 'oh, wow, yeah now I see it' instead of doubling down like a lot of the other replies here
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@cairobraga @saltywizard I've been trying to avoid things that use sex-specific bodyparts, to avoid e.g. implying that penises are bad (calling someone a dickhead) - I stick with things that are more general, like shithead and asshole
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a cartoon showing two spiders. one is laying flat with its legs extended. the other says, 'don't be an asshole, steve." (the flat spider resembles a simple drawing of a butthole).
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a cartoon showing two spiders. one is laying flat with its legs extended. the other says, 'don't be an asshole, steve." (the flat spider resembles a simple drawing of a butthole).
@saltywizard @Curator @cairobraga when you write that does it talk to the people?
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@saltywizard @Curator @cairobraga when you write that does it talk to the people?
@terribletowelie @Curator @cairobraga
if you copy/paste it into the #alttext of your image, your toot will likely get more boosts.
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Can we please not with all the ableist language I'm seeing around discussing AI (and anything, really)?
Using words to refer to negative situations, when those words have been used to describe people with mental health problems, is perpetuating a stigma that mental health conditions and the people that have them are inherently bad.
Examples under CW below.
We *at the very least* limit anyone we see using language like this, and almost always it's a full block from our instance.
@Curator let's picture Sam Altman does something very aggravating :
incompetent (?)
cheap
unreasonable
shocking
too much x / too little x
disgusting
degrading
frustrating
flabbergasting
detestable
childish (?)He would be a(n) :
asshole
jerk
creep
dirtbag
nuisance
bootlicker
billionaire (to me that's just an insult even if you don't have a billion of whatever currency)
<thing> bro (i.e. AI bro)
prick
